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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
BillW
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 05:01 pm
@blatham,
This one is so important, if a Felony, because a guilty verdict can not be exonerated and pardoned by a current or future President or the Supreme Court!
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 05:03 pm
@blatham,
<<<BUMP>>>
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 05:20 pm
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/bf/53/be/bf53be6d457839924cbb28e974c02b27.jpg
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 05:50 pm
Indicated.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsgH9PSWcAYjogf?format=jpg&name=900x900
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 06:31 pm
About freaking time.

There are a minimum of three more felony indictments looming in his future.

I want to see the picture of him in jail orange right after his shower: face, turn right, turn left. I bet he looks a lot like an orange Darth Vader. Too bad there won't be a perp walk. Do you all think DeSantis will gleefully sign off or regretfully refuse to sign extradition to NYC?
snood
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 06:44 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Desantis has already said he won’t participate in the extradition.

Why are you talking about orange jump suits?

His indictment in NY will consist of formal charging, fingerprints, a mug shot and then release on his own recognizance to await trial.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 06:46 pm
@hingehead,
The point Snood's making is serious and true. I believe he's making a good point: we're not open in in the US. We may be loosening up but there is some sort of majority rule that says all "minorities" need to assimilate white. We may have been melting pot, we aren't so much that now.

hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 07:00 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
I think you miss where I'm coming from - I totally agree with Snood's point. I was merely pointing out the literality of the words is some people's credo.
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jcboy
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 07:09 pm
Tar and feather the SOB!
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 07:26 pm
@snood,
Yup
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 07:34 pm
I have seen a few notable people surmise that Trump may be convicted but probably will not ever spent time behind bars. The conviction of a felony is primary; but, what is wrong with imprisonment on an island like Napoleon Bonaparte?
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 07:41 pm
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:

Some f***ers will agree and believe you're serious.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/mEahVAkKjt0VL2o5Jk/200.webp?cid=ecf05e470625ak3gtnnx7ky28himgjvdol5qxf5uutzu7k0n&rid=200.webp&ct=g


Shhhh! I was hoping to sucker someone in and mess with them.
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 08:24 pm
My advice for Trump, next week when he heads to New York, after he lands:
1) Take on a full load of fuel, topping off all tanks,
2) Take off heading due north at full speed,
3) Head for Russia by the shortest over the pole route,
4) Request Putin to give you an escort as soon as Putin feels comfortable to do so,
5) Land in Moscow,
6) This is home for the rest of your crummy life.
7) Anyone who really cares that much for this putz can buy a one-way ticket to Russia.
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 09:00 pm
Something that I’m wondering about:

Okay, so he’s indicted on (arguably) the least consequential of the possible criminal charges against him - having to do with his role in paying for the silence of a porn star and how that may have been an attempt to affect the outcome of the presidential election.

All estimates I’ve heard say that the actual trial for this may not start for a YEAR.

So here’s my question: Will the ‘pending’ status of his trial for the pornstar payoff affect the rate of speed at which the other entities (Dept of Justice, Ga. AG) process his other possible indictments? Do they have to wait for this trial to resolve before they indict? (If they indict)
BillW
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 09:22 pm
I heard on MSNBC about 30 minutes ago that there are suppose to be 28 indictments.
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2023 09:48 pm
@snood,
snood, the one thing that concerns me is that whether federal or state, they pick one and only one felony crime that they believe will take the shortest period of time to try from now until the jury's verdict comes in and it is believed will definitely result in a guilty verdict. Everything else can wait until after this trial to be tried.

I don't care if he does even one day of prison time or not, I just want a finding of guilty on a felony count. The rest can come afterwards.
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2023 04:39 am
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The New York grand jury investigating Trump’s 2016 hush-money payments to adult film actor Stormy Daniels has voted to indict the former president. While we don’t know the full range of charges, Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg’s office confirmed that they were forthcoming tonight when it released a statement saying, “This evening we contacted Mr. Trump’s attorney to coordinate his surrender to the Manhattan D.A.’s office for arraignment on a Supreme Court indictment, which remains under seal.”

This is the first time in history a former United States president has been indicted, although it is worth remembering that it is not new for our justice system to hold elected officials accountable. Mayors have been indicted and convicted. So have governors: in fact, four of the past ten Illinois governors have gone to prison. Vice presidents, too, have been charged with crimes: Aaron Burr was indicted on two counts of murder in 1804 while still in office and was tried for treason afterward. And in 1973, Richard Nixon’s vice president Spiro Agnew resigned after pleading no contest to tax evasion to avoid prison time.

That Trump’s indictment is happening in New York has likely made it harder for Trump to drum up the mobs he has been inciting to defend him. New York City notoriously dislikes the former real estate man. Voters of Tomorrow official Victor Shi was at the Manhattan district attorney’s office this evening and found no one protesting. When people did show up, he tweeted, they were not Trump supporters. They were women carrying signs that said, “‘Trump is guilty’ and ‘The Time Is Now,’” he wrote. “People in the background are chanting, ‘Way to go, ladies!’ NYC is rejoicing.”

New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman, to whom Trump people feel comfortable talking, said that the Trump camp at Mar-a-Lago is “in…shock” at the news. They thought yesterday’s announcement that the grand jury will go on a break in early April indicated that nothing would happen before the jury reconvened. As Haberman points out, Trump has been afraid of indictments for many years, and while some speculate this indictment might help his political profile (I disagree with that, by the way), he is unhappy to see it finally arrive. He did, though, immediately start fundraising off it.

Trump also released quite a long, antisemitic statement blaming “Radical Left Democrats” for a “Witch-Hunt” and saying this is “blatant Election interference.” House speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) also quickly reinforced Trump's argument, saying that Bragg had “irreparably damaged our country in an attempt to interfere in our Presidential election,” and a number of other Republican officials reinforced that sentiment.

That is quite a position to take. The vote to indict came not from Bragg himself, but from a grand jury made up of ordinary Americans, and none of us knows what’s in the indictment, so one can hardly object to it in good faith.

CNN reporter Melanie Zanona reports that Trump has been working the phones tonight, reaching out to Republican allies to shore up support. Some of them, of course, are trying to discredit Bragg’s work by investigating him.

Trump is at his company’s property in Florida, Mar-a-Lago. Florida governor Ron DeSantis echoed Trump’s antisemitism and accusations, tweeting that Florida would “not assist in an extradition request.” But Article IV, Section 2, of the United States Constitution says, “A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.”

So either DeSantis is planning to violate the Constitution, or he recognizes that Trump will probably return to New York voluntarily, or—and this is the most likely—he is posturing to pick up Trump voters while secretly rejoicing that this will likely make it harder for Trump to win the Republican presidential nomination. While all eyes were on Trump this evening, paperwork was filed in the Florida Senate to begin the process of revising election laws, possibly so that DeSantis can run for president without resigning as governor, as under current Florida law he must.

But there was something striking about Trump’s statement. In blaming the “Radical Left Democrats” for their “Witch-Hunt to destroy the Make America Great Again movement,” he wrote, “You remember it just like I do: Russia, Russia, Russia; the Mueller Hoax; Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine; Impeachment Hoax 1; Impeachment Hoax 2; the illegal and unconstitutional Mar-a-Lago raid; and now this.”

It's not a list to be proud of, but that wording—“you remember it just like I do”—jumped out. Trump always goes back to what he calls the Russia hoax, his second attempt to rewrite the way people thought about his presidency (the first was the size of the crowd at his inauguration).

From the very start of his presidency, when the Federal Bureau of Investigation caught Trump's then–national security advisor Michael Flynn lying about his contact with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, more and more information has come out tying the Trump campaign to Russian operatives. As it did, Trump insisted that his followers must believe that all that information was a lie. If they believed his lies rather than the truth over the Russia scandal, they would trust him rather than believe the truth about everything.

The 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine has given a new frame to Russia’s attempts to interfere in the 2016 election. A piece by Jim Rutenberg in the New York Times Magazine in November 2022 pulled together testimony given both to the Mueller investigation and the Republican-dominated Senate Intelligence Committee, transcripts from the impeachment hearings, and recent memoirs. Rutenberg showed that in 2016, Russian operatives had presented to Trump advisor and later campaign manager Paul Manafort a plan “for the creation of an autonomous republic in Ukraine’s east, giving Putin effective control of the country’s industrial heartland, where Kremlin-armed, -funded, and -directed “separatists” were waging a two-year-old shadow war that had left nearly 10,000 dead.”

In exchange for weakening the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), undermining the U.S. stance in favor of Ukraine in its attempt to throw off the Russians who had invaded in 2014, and removing U.S. sanctions from Russian entities, Russian operatives were willing to put their finger on the scale to help Trump win the White House.

Rutenberg notes that Russia’s February 2022 invasion of Ukraine looks a lot like a way to achieve the plan it suggested in 2016 but, thanks to a different president in the U.S., that invasion did not yield the results Russian president Vladimir Putin expected. The Russian economy is crumbling, and Tuesday, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley told the Senate Armed Services Committee that Russia's Wagner group of mercenaries is "suffering an enormous amount of casualties in the Bakhmut area.” He called it a “slaughter-fest" for the Russians. Today, Putin issued an order to conscript another 147,000 soldiers by July 15.

Pressure on Putin continues to mount. The International Criminal Court’s March 17 arrest warrant against him and his children’s rights commissioner, Maria Lvova-Belova, for war crimes apparently caught Russian leadership by surprise. It isolates Russia and worries other Russian lawmakers that they will be charged as well, weakening their support for Putin. “Now proximity to the president isn’t just talk,” one political strategist said, “it’s a real step towards being prosecuted by international law enforcement.”

And President of the European Commission (which is the executive of the European Union) Ursula von der Leyen today warned that as the European Union rethinks its trade policies, China could find itself isolated as well if it continues to support Russia. “How China continues to interact with Putin’s war will be a determining factor for EU-China relations going forward,” she said.

Meanwhile, Turkey today dropped its opposition to Finland’s membership in NATO, a membership Finland has pursued in the wake of Russia’s recent aggression. Finland shares an 830-mile border with Russia, and now it will be part of NATO.

Under such pressure, Russia today took the extraordinary step of detaining American journalist Evan Gershkovich, a reporter for the Wall Street Journal, accusing him of spying. Secretary of State Antony Blinken expressed deep concern and urged U.S. citizens living or traveling in Russia to “leave immediately.”

Yesterday, another study of the Russian invasion of Ukraine invited us to look backward as well as forward. Britain’s Royal United Services Institute, a government-affiliated think tank, released a report on Russia’s “covert and clandestine operations, psychological operations, subversion, sabotage, special operations and intelligence and counterintelligence activities” designed to destabilize Ukraine and take it over. The report’s focus was on the current war in Ukraine, but as Josh Kovensky of Talking Points Memo notes, it establishes that some of the same people behind the destabilization of Ukrainian politics were part of Trump’s world. Notably, Russian operative Andrii Derkach not only worked to grab Ukraine for Russia, but also escorted Trump ally Rudy Giuliani around Ukraine in 2019 to dig up dirt on Biden.

In the end, as legal dominoes begin to fall, it might be that Americans do not, in fact, remember the history of his presidency from “Russia, Russia, Russia” forward the same way Trump does.

hcr
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2023 08:37 am
Manhattan’s DA wanted a Friday Trump arrest. Trump’s team said no.

Erica Orden
Thu, March 30, 2023 at 6:17 PM CDT

https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-da-wanted-friday-trump-231742859.html

The Manhattan district attorney’s office asked for Donald Trump to surrender on Friday following a grand jury’s vote to indict the former president.

But lawyers for Trump rebuffed the request saying that the Secret Service, which provides security detail for the former president, needed more time to prepare.

The exchange, which was relayed to POLITICO by a law-enforcement source and confirmed by Joe Tacopina, a lawyer for the former president, underscores the extremely delicate, unprecedented nature of the indictment. Until Thursday, no ex-president in history had been criminally charged. And both the charges itself and the application of them have placed the country on uncharted legal and political terrain.

A spokesperson for the D.A.’s office didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

Trump is expected to surrender to the Manhattan D.A.’s office, but Tacopina said that no precise date had been set for it. Ultimately the Secret Service will have to coordinate the conditions of the surrender with court officials and the New York Police Department.

Though it is not believed that Trump will resist arrest, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis — a likely 2024 primary opponent to Trump — said on Twitter Thursday that his state would “not assist in an extradition request given the questionable circumstances at issue” with Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan D.A.

DeSantis’ tweet came hours after the Manhattan grand jury voted to indict Trump in a case related to his hush money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels. Daniels has alleged that the two had an affair which Trump sought to keep private during the 2016 campaign.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2023 08:40 am
A Donald Trump mugshot? Fingerprints? What happens next after Trump indictment

What is an indictment, and what does it mean for former President Trump?

Josh Meyer, USA TODAY
Fri, March 31, 2023 at 9:26 AM CDT

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-mugshot-happens-next-002724435.html

Donald Trump's indictment means that even though he is the first former president of the United States to be charged with a crime, he will be treated – to some degree, anyway – just like any other defendant in the criminal justice system.

When he is arrested, Trump will be read his rights, known as a Miranda warning, including that he has the right to remain silent, that he has the right to an attorney and that what he says can be used against him in a court of law.

Trump indictment: Former president will surrender, won't consider plea deal: live updates

Then Trump will be taken into custody and processed just like any other defendant, including a booking number, former prosecutors and law enforcement officials told USA TODAY. “There will still be a mug shot, fingerprints and lots of paperwork filled out as part of the booking process,” as with other defendants, said former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner.

Underscoring the unprecedented nature of the case, it is expected that Trump will be accompanied through the process by his Secret Service detail. Former presidents are afforded such protection for life.

More: 'An outrage': What Trump's potential rivals for 2024 are saying about his indictment

The Manhattan District Attorney’s office acknowledged late Thursday that Trump’s lawyers had been notified. “This evening we contacted Mr. Trump’s attorney to coordinate his surrender … for arraignment on a Supreme Court indictment, which remains under seal,” a spokesperson for District Attorney Alvin Bragg said. “Guidance will be provided when the arraignment date is selected.”

Getting Trump to the courthouse could be another matter entirely.

Given his special stature, Trump's first appearance could be a relatively calm event, with special efforts made by prosecutors and police to shield him from the kind of "perp walk" that authorities sometimes force other defendants to endure. That means a march – often in handcuffs – past the throngs of New York media. In some cases, some defendants have chosen to be taken into custody that way in an effort to make a statement about their arrest and the charges against them.

What we know about Trump indictment: Donald Trump is the first former president to face criminal charges. What we know

Trump attorney Joe Tacopina said the former president was expected in New York early next week for arraignment.

"It's safe to say it will be a complete circus, and that’s an understatement," said Matt Dallek, a presidential historian. "I doubt they will cuff him. But my understanding is he will need to be fingerprinted and take a mug shot."

Contributing: Kevin Johnson

Josh Meyer is domestic security correspondent for USA TODAY. Follow him on Twitter at @joshmeyerdc
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2023 04:27 pm
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Judge Deals Fox Defeat In Dominion Case

A Delaware judge allowed Dominion Voting Systems’ lawsuit against Fox News to proceed, striking down the conservative network’s claims while finding in favor partly for the aggrieved voting machine company.

Delaware Superior Court Judge Eric Davis ruled in favor of Dominion on one point: that public statements made by Fox employees about the voting machine company were completely false.

“The evidence developed in this civil proceeding demonstrates that [it] is CRYSTAL clear that none of the Statements relating to Dominion about the 2020 election are true,” Davis wrote.

Various Fox News hosts endorsed the view that Dominion played a role in stealing the election, News Corp Executive Chairman Rupert Murdoch admitted in a deposition released in the case.

Davis’ conclusion is a huge blow to Fox in the case, which is set to go to trial in April.

Fox attorneys had argued that the network was simply covering various sides of an evolving controversy — whether the election was stolen from Trump and, more specifically, whether Dominion had aligned with deceased Venezuelan premier Hugo Chavez as part of a Communist plot to defeat Trump.

The dispute partly comes down to what’s known as the neutral report privilege, which protects journalists engaged in good faith reporting about publicly made allegations. Davis found that Fox’s reporting was not protected.

“Even if the neutral report privilege did apply, the evidence does not support that FNN
conducted good-faith, disinterested reporting,” Davis wrote. “FNN’s failure to reveal extensive contradicting evidence from the public sphere and Dominion itself indicates its reporting was not disinterested.”

As part of a separate but related argument, that statement broadcast on Fox about Dominion’s supposed role in rigging the 2020 election were not intended as statements of fact, but, rather, opinion, Davis demurred.

“It is reasonably conceivable that viewers of the FNN show segments and tweets of FNN hosts would not view the Statements as merely opinions of the hosts, but either as actual assertions of fact, or implications that the hosts knew something that the viewers do not, i.e., a ‘mixed opinion,'” he wrote. “The Statements were capable of being proven true, and in fact the evidence that would prove the Statements was discussed many times (but never presented). Moreover, the context supports the position that the Statements were not pure
opinion where they were made by newscasters holding themselves out to be sources of accurate information.”

Davis’ ruling means that, if the case goes to trial absent a settlement agreement, a jury will have to consider whether Fox knew that the claims it propagated about Dominion were untrue when it made them. The ruling establishes that the claims themselves were false, removing that from the jury’s consideration.

Jurors will also be asked to decide what damages Dominion is entitled to receive. It has asked for $1.6 billion.
TPM
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