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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
MontereyJack
 
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Sun 21 Mar, 2021 09:50 pm
@oralloy,
wrong, as always.
oralloy
 
  0  
Sun 21 Mar, 2021 09:52 pm
@MontereyJack,
You've yet to point out a single untrue statement in my posts.

All you do is talk and talk and talk about imaginary untrue statements without ever pointing out anything that is actually untrue.

And as for my preceding post, the example of Bill Clinton shows quite clearly that Democrats think that they themselves are above the law.

Democrats also think it was perfectly fine for Mr. Obama to lie about contacts with Russia in order to launch an illegal investigation into Mr. Trump.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Sun 21 Mar, 2021 10:06 pm
@oralloy,
okay, here ya go, "dick cheney's biggest lie". I'm right, as usual.
https://www.newsweek.com/2015/05/29/dick-cheneys-biggest-lie-333097.html



Builder
 
  0  
Sun 21 Mar, 2021 10:13 pm
@MontereyJack,
The irony being, that after the Cheney-Rice lie fest, we all breathed a heavy sigh of relief at the Hope and Change scenario that the Obama admin promised.

How very wrong we were, wouldn't be apparent for a short while, but it was worse; much, much worse.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Sun 21 Mar, 2021 10:16 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
okay, here ya go, "dick cheney's biggest lie". I'm right, as usual.

I didn't see any evidence that Mr. Cheney said something that he knew was untrue.

That said, all politicians lie at some point. So who knows.

Even assuming that he did lie however, how does that justify framing Scooter Libby for an imaginary crime?
oralloy
 
  0  
Sun 21 Mar, 2021 10:20 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Democrats also think it was perfectly fine for Mr. Obama to lie about contacts with Russia in order to launch an illegal investigation into Mr. Trump.

idea: Idea

Since the Democrats have now established a precedent for post-Presidential impeachments, how about we impeach Barack Obama for lunching an illegal investigation into imaginary collusion?
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Sun 21 Mar, 2021 10:33 pm
@oralloy,
trump askef for it. putin provided it. colluson involves clandestine activity. they did it, they just did it openly , no need to be clandestine. same effect. interference with gthe election by putin at trump;s behest. that's clear
oralloy
 
  0  
Sun 21 Mar, 2021 10:35 pm
@MontereyJack,
That doesn't justify an illegal investigation into imaginary collusion.

We should impeach Barack Obama before we impeach Joe Biden.

We should still impeach Joe Biden too of course.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Sun 21 Mar, 2021 10:36 pm
@oralloy,
read it more thoroughly. "biggest lie" might give you a clue.
oralloy
 
  0  
Sun 21 Mar, 2021 10:37 pm
@MontereyJack,
Even assuming that they did lie about the war, how does that justify framing Scooter Libby for an imaginary crime?
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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Sun 21 Mar, 2021 10:38 pm
@oralloy,
never gonna happen. no dem crimes. not so the repubs.
oralloy
 
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Sun 21 Mar, 2021 10:39 pm
@MontereyJack,
All it takes to impeach either Barack Obama or Joe Biden is a majority vote in the House. That majority will be there in less than two years.

Bill Clinton committed a long list of felonies, including perjury in a civil trial, perjury before a grand jury, obstruction of justice, and witness tampering. He also committed sexual harassment, sexual assault, and outright rape.

Barack Obama launched an illegal investigation into imaginary collusion.

We'll need to conduct a lengthy investigation into Joe Biden before we know how many crimes he's been committing.
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revelette3
 
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Mon 22 Mar, 2021 09:52 am
I wish the Biden administration would get a handle of the border situation. I know they are doing their best, but, apparently it is a real bad situation and plus, they haven't got a good message to explain the steps they are taking to get control of it. It is not enough to say they inherited it. They got to come up with believable to steps to carry out solutions.
hightor
 
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Mon 22 Mar, 2021 10:40 am
@revelette3,
Ditto.

However, it's important to differentiate between the political concerns and the humanitarian concerns. The previous administration closed many of the facilities — they weren't much to begin with — which have been hastily re-opened to deal with the numbers. It will take some time to address the shortage of space — but it is being addressed. Families aren't being separated (they're being returned to Mexico) but unaccompanied kids are being allowed to stay on the US side. Yes, the conservative media is making a big deal about this — but that's because it's the only issue they have at the moment, since the relief bill is politically popular and Biden is neither the bomb-wielding radical socialist nor the senile robot they warned us about.

Give the border situation some time. It will be very difficult to arrive at a good solution but the people working on the problems have the interests of the refugees and the USA at heart. And remember, the USA had a hand in destroying the Central American economies by propping up right-wing dictators and destroying local economies through exports of food which used to be grown locally.
oralloy
 
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Mon 22 Mar, 2021 05:49 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Yes, the conservative media is making a big deal about this — but that's because it's the only issue they have at the moment,

I disagree. I think the reason for the conservative emphasis on the Obama/Biden death camps for Latinos is revenge for all the hysteria that the Trump Administration was subjected to over immigration.

What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.


hightor wrote:
since the relief bill is politically popular

I'm not following politics closely but my understanding is that conservatives are happy to oppose that.


hightor wrote:
and Biden is neither the bomb-wielding radical socialist nor the senile robot they warned us about.

Sure he is.
MontereyJack
 
  0  
Mon 22 Mar, 2021 09:17 pm
@oralloy,
So when you get your covid vaccine shot on thrusday, be sure to thank the "radical bomb=wielding socialist senile robot " who got you that shot months earlier than trump;s snail-pace efforts would have. bide's beaten his own timetable, which conservatives claimed was impossible, by months. we need more "senile robots "like that. Thank the gods we've got one.
oralloy
 
  0  
Mon 22 Mar, 2021 09:46 pm
@MontereyJack,
Actually four of the vaccines (Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, AstraZeneca, and Novavax) came on an early timetable because of Mr. Trump's funding.

If it wasn't for Mr. Trump, America would have just the Pfizer vaccine alone right now, and I'd be waiting much longer to get my shot.
MontereyJack
 
  0  
Mon 22 Mar, 2021 10:26 pm
@oralloy,
actualy pfiser and i think moderna did the research and started developing thweir vaccines on their own not even in america, and trump as usual trires to claim credit for things he had no hand in. Not to mention that despite the talk of opoeration warp speed operating at warp spkeed, it was still stuck in first gear with a misfiring engine when trump was unceremoniously relieved of malfeasinfg misduty.
oralloy
 
  0  
Mon 22 Mar, 2021 10:32 pm
@MontereyJack,
Mr. Trump did provide funding for those four vaccines to come to market much earlier than they otherwise would have done.
glitterbag
 
  1  
Mon 22 Mar, 2021 10:44 pm
@oralloy,
Well that's not true.
 

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