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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
engineer
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 02:39 pm
@Region Philbis,
Why on earth would she do that?? Coney Barrett is one of the least qualified candidates in Supreme Court history, but you don't see her recusing herself. Is Jackson saying only white men should be voting on this issue?
engineer
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 02:41 pm
@Region Philbis,
In the case of a tie, the lower court ruling is upheld.
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 02:48 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
The guy who shot Steve Scalise was a Bernie voter…but that’s also Republicans’ fault?
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 02:51 pm
@Region Philbis,
Why the eff would she do that?? That’s stupid.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 02:52 pm
@Lash,
You claim to be a Bernie Sanders voter and you're as republican as they come.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 03:47 pm
@engineer,
Quote:
Jackson is a graduate of Harvard and Harvard Law, and served as a six-term member of Harvard's
Board of Overseers until last spring. Her daughter, Leila, is currently a first-year student at Harvard.
(source)
blatham
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 03:59 pm
@hightor
Quote:
Library of America
@LibraryAmerica
2h
Congratulations to LOA Board member Joanne Freeman (@jbf1755) and Heather Cox Richardson (@HC_Richardson), recipients of the biennial William Hickling Prescott Award for Excellence in Historical Writing!
https://masshist.org/events/prescott-award-presentation-2022
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revelette1
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 04:34 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Roberts has almost always ruled for affirmative action. I think we have more to fear from state legislatures.

It may be by one vote. I think Alito would support affirmative action.


Did you not read Roberts argument today?

Quote:
Roberts grills Harvard attorney: 'We did not fight a civil war about oboe players'

Chief Justice John Roberts, a long-time critic of race-conscious policies, pressed Harvard attorney Seth Waxman to concede that -- in some cases -- race could be a determinative factor for admission.

"You will have to concede that it provides one of many [factors] that in some cases can be determinative" Roberts said.

"I do, I do concede that," Waxman said, going on to explain that it could be a "tip" on a competitive application in the same way a student's oboe-playing abilities could be a factor if the university needed one.

"We did not fight a civil war about oboe players," Roberts shot back, "we did fight a civil war to eliminate racial discrimination."


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/supreme-court-affirmative-action-arguments-live-blog/?id=92307891
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revelette1
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 04:39 pm
@Region Philbis,
Oh, makes sense. At first, I was like, "what?"
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 04:45 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

You claim to be a Bernie Sanders voter and you're as republican as they come.

I voted for Bernie twice, and I still don’t understand how Bob holds Republicans responsible for shootings done by liberals and right wing conspiracy people.

I just don’t get the logic.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 07:13 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
Today is a sad day, Affirmative Action is up before the Court. I just know it is going to be rolled back to be almost meaningless. It is like our country is going backwards in all walks of life.

Affirmative action is racism and should be abolished.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2022 07:14 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
<reaching for my heart medicine> You setting Lash straight. "I'm coming Loueezy".

I don't know who Loueezy is. I just always stand up for the truth.

With the Russia Ukraine thing I'm actually arguing against both sides all the time, because both sides want to cover up some of the facts.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
The US and allies have all sort of "nuclear deterrent" in Europe - minutes from Moscow. Moscow has the same aimed all over Europe.
The US has tactical nuclear weapons stationed to slow an expected Russian invasion route through the Fulda Gap into Germany, meaning the civilians and US troops there are sacrificial in stopping the bear.

Things have evolved a bit since the end of the Cold War. Barack Obama developed a new set of tactical nukes to deploy in Europe that have unprecedented accuracy allowing them to score direct hits on Russian military targets, allowing much lower yields to be used for much less collateral damage. (Well, he didn't develop them personally. But he approved the program that developed them.)

They are quite possibly the first "usable nukes" that are truly usable.

https://fas.org/blogs/security/2013/09/b61-12holland/
https://fas.org/blogs/security/2013/10/b61-12hearing/
https://fas.org/blogs/security/2014/01/b61capability/
https://fas.org/blogs/security/2014/02/b61-12pictures/
https://fas.org/blogs/security/2014/03/b61-12integration/
https://fas.org/blogs/security/2014/04/b61-12features/
https://fas.org/blogs/security/2015/11/b61-12_cartwright/
https://fas.org/blogs/security/2016/01/b61-12_earth-penetration/

They've been rolling off the assembly line for nearly a year now, but I'm unsure what our production rate is:
https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/articles/nnsa-completes-first-production-unit-b61-12-life-extension-program


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
How do you get how dangerous the bear is, and yet miss so much of how the bear subverted the 45 administration and voting integrity?

None of that stuff matters. I always vote only for Republicans in general elections ever since the Democrats helped Barack Obama steal the 2008 Michigan primary. I even research which judges are Republicans so I can vote for all the Republican judges.

And if it wasn't for that, I'd be voting only for candidates that were recommended by the NRA.
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2022 03:27 am
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Last night, Brazil’s Superior Electoral Court declared that voters in Brazil have elected Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva president, replacing right-wing leader Jair Bolsonaro. A factory worker from a young age, the new leader, popularly known as Lula, is a workers’ rights supporter who held the presidency from 2003 to 2011. In office, he launched programs to end hunger, strengthen family agriculture, provide housing, and protect Brazil’s environment, including the rain forests. During his first term, malnutrition among Brazil’s poor was cut by half, from 14% to 7%.

Former president Trump saw Bolsonaro as an ally: Bolsonaro followed Trump’s playbook to rise to the presidency in 2018, governed as Trump did, and worked to delegitimize Lula’s victory even before voting began. In a video statement before the election, Trump called Bolsonaro “one of the great people in all of politics and in all of leadership of countries,” and told voters: “He has my complete and total endorsement…. Don’t lose him. Don’t let that happen. It would not be good for your country.”

Democratic leaders around the world congratulated Lula shortly after election officials declared him the winner. President Joe Biden tweeted his congratulations to Lula within minutes for his election “following free, fair, and credible elections.” The leaders of Canada, France, and the United Kingdom hurried to congratulate Lula, in part to head off Bolsonaro’s refusal to accept the results of the election. In late August 2021, Bolsonaro vowed he would win the 2022 election, be arrested, or be killed.

Bolsonaro has stayed silent, refusing to concede the election but, so far, not contesting it either. He has said he will speak tomorrow. But right-wing figures in the U.S. are urging him to fight. Trump ally Steve Bannon insisted that the vote was rigged and that Bolsonaro “cannot concede”; right-wing agitator Ali Alexander, who helped to organize the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, used the hashtag StopTheSteal when he noted, “In Brazil, the MILITARY has the right to insert itself into an election where there is suspected FRAUD. We must have an AUDIT NOW!”

For his part, Lula has promised an inclusive government that will protect the rain forest and try to heal the nation’s political divisions. “I will govern for 215 million Brazilians…and not just for those who voted for me. There are not two Brazils. We are one country, one people—one great nation,” Lula told a crowd after his election. “It is in nobody’s interests to live in a country that is divided and in a constant state of war.”

The effect of the sort of political division Lula called out has been highlighted in America this weekend as the country has tried to come to grips with the assault on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband, Paul, by a radicalized 42-year-old man who has spent the past two years living in a garage. In addition to the state charges already filed against him, federal prosecutors today charged David DePape, the alleged assailant, with assault and attempted kidnapping with intent to “impede, intimidate, or interfere” with an official’s ability to perform official duties.

An FBI affidavit described what happened at the Pelosis’ San Francisco home early in the morning of October 28. DePape, who was a stranger to Mr. Pelosi, broke through a glass door with a hammer and surprised Mr. Pelosi, who was asleep in bed. DePape told Mr. Pelosi he was looking for Nancy and that he would tie Mr. Pelosi up with zip ties while he waited for her. Mr. Pelosi went into a bathroom and called 911 at 2:23 am. When the officers arrived at 2:31, the two men were at the front door, both holding onto a single hammer while DePape was holding Mr. Pelosi’s forearm with his other hand.

When the officers asked them to drop the hammer, DePape pulled it out of Mr. Pelosi’s hand and swung it at his head, fracturing his skull.

DePape later told San Francisco Police officers that he intended to hold Nancy Pelosi hostage and talk to her. If she told “the truth,” he would let her go, but if she “lied”—as he was certain she would—he intended to break her kneecaps to show other members of Congress what could happen to them. He said he considered Speaker Pelosi “the ‘leader of the pack’ of lies told by the Democratic Party.” He said he didn’t leave after Mr. Pelosi called 911 because “much like the American founding fathers with the British, he was fighting against tyranny without the option of surrender.”

He told officers he swung the hammer at Mr. Pelosi because Mr. Pelosi’s actions resulted in his “taking the punishment instead.”

The parallels between DePape’s rhetoric and plans and the January 6th attack on the Capitol—right down to the zip ties and the references to the American Revolution—have made Republicans desperate to spin the deadly attack as a reflection of political violence on both sides of the aisle, of the general violence they insist is happening in the cities, or—appallingly and without evidence—of a gay tryst gone bad. Others have tried to turn an assault on the husband of the Speaker of the House, the second in line for the presidency, in an attempt to get at her, into fodder for jokes. Conservative commentator Tom Nichols tweeted that the moment “feels like a turning point…. If we’re not going to ostracize people who are yukking it up over taking a hammer to a man in his 80s, then we’re a different society.”

On today’s Morning Joe television show, Mika Brzezinski drew the obvious parallels between January 6 and the attack on Mr. Pelosi, calling the incident out as the second deadly threat against the House Speaker’s life in two years, and laying the blame for it on the rhetoric of right-wing extremists, including the former president. “While surgeons operated on the fractured skull of the 82-year-old grandfather, deranged right-wing fanatics, Trump media allies, and some of the most powerful people in the world were feverishly trying to stir up conspiracy theories that distracted from the central political headline of this story,” she said, “that years of Republican propaganda and Trump-fueled fascism led 42-year-old David DePape to break into Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco home, seemingly with the intent to harm her.”

Meanwhile, the man at the heart of “Trump-fueled fascism” continues to try to evade the law. Yesterday the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol obtained eight emails that a judge says show Trump and his lawyers planning to defraud the courts by filing lawsuits they knew contained false information, and trying to abuse the legal system to stop Trump’s election loss. John Eastman, the author of the infamous memo setting up a plan to steal the election, is trying to get the committee to return or destroy the emails.

Today, Trump’s lawyers asked the Supreme Court to block the House Ways and Means Committee from seeing his tax returns. An appeals court decided that the committee could see them, but Trump is pretty clearly trying to delay, hoping a Republican House will kill the request.

Like Trump, Bolsonaro now faces investigations and possible criminal charges that have been delayed while he enjoyed presidential immunity. He has told two senior officials he is worried that, out of office, he will go to prison.

hcr
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2022 06:55 am
This short video posted posted by Digby of a Fox viewer's notions on Halloween fentanyl threats is worth your time.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2022 06:58 am
Paul Pelosi Almost Died, and Most Republicans Don’t Have a Big Problem With That

In fact, some of them have even suggested committing violence against his wife, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

https://newrepublic.com/article/168362/paul-pelosi-attack-almost-died-republican-response

Nothing in particular was happening on July 31, 2021, that should have given Kevin McCarthy’s words any special weight. It was a Saturday. The House of Representatives was on summer break. McCarthy was in Nashville at a fundraising event, and the state’s House Republicans presented him with an oversize gavel. Then he “joked”: “I want you to watch Nancy Pelosi hand me that gavel. It’ll be hard not to hit her with it.” You can hear the audio here, and listen as the crowd laughs.

This is the man the voters of America are likely to make the next speaker of the House. But wait. The man in charge of this year’s House GOP effort, Representative Tom Emmer of Minnesota, has gone McCarthy one better. Last week, with political emotions at a fever pitch, he posted to Twitter a video of himself firing a weapon at a range, under which he wrote: “Enjoyed exercising my Second Amendment rights with @KellyCooperAZ & General @JackBergman_MI1. 13 days to make history. Let’s #FirePelosi.” Two days later, David DePape broke into Nancy Pelosi’s house, and you know what happened next.

On Face the Nation Sunday, host Margaret Brennan destroyed Emmer. “A tweet. Hashtag Fire Pelosi with a weapon. Wouldn’t a pink slip be more fitting if it’s about firing her? Why a gun?” she asked him. He hemmed and hawed, Second Amendment this, Steve Scalise that. Yes, his GOP colleague Steve Scalise was almost killed by a deranged person who was a Bernie Sanders supporter. But … remind me of that time when Sanders joked about shooting GOP House members. Oh, right. Didn’t happen.

In fact, Emmer stupidly conceded the above point without quite realizing what he was saying. When he invoked the Scalise shooting, he said, “Nobody is trying to equate Democratic rhetoric with those actions.” Well, no. That’s because there was no Democratic rhetoric about shooting Republicans or bonking them on the head with gavels. Brennan pressed on: “I’m not talking about your rhetoric. I’m talking about what you posted. You’re shooting a gun! Our viewers just saw it!” she said. “Republican candidates have spent more than 116 million on ads that mentioned Speaker Pelosi by name in their cycle.”

You’ve read, I’m sure, about Elon Musk’s sick tweet Sunday morning. I’m not going to help spread the conspiracy theory in question. It came from a “news source” that wrote years ago that Hillary Clinton had died and been replaced by a body double. And Musk, on the very weekend he took over Twitter and started firing people, decided that “free speech” includes peddling to his 112 million followers a tale with no basis in fact from a right-wing propaganda outlet. Behold our new public square.

This, friends, is a moment. I encourage you—especially if you’re younger, and you have five or six decades of life in these United States ahead of you—to remember and reflect on this moment, because if democracy dies in this country, and if violence overwhelms discourse and the bullet replaces the ballot, the beating of Paul Pelosi and the right-wing reaction to it will be noted as a signal event in that decline in the history books (that is, if the writers of honest history are still allowed to be historians and publish books).

The reaction of course extends well beyond the vile Musk. In classic totalitarian fashion, figures on the right are interpreting the Pelosi attack as a moment of liberation. Dinesh D’Souza suggested—on Twitter, natch—that the Pelosi attack was a false flag operation, and then, of the discrepancy between the mainstream reporting on the incident (that is to say, the gathering of facts) versus the extremist conspiracy, he wrote: “The Left is going crazy because not only are we not BUYING the wacky, implausible Paul Pelosi story but we are even LAUGHING over how ridiculous it is. What this means is that we are no longer intimidated by their fake pieties. Their control over us has finally been broken.”

Substitute “Jew” for “left,” and that’s Joseph Goebbels in 1933.


Though he would obviously deny it, what D’Souza is doing there is telling his followers: This violence is all right. That was also the message from Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin, who thought it was appropriate to use the attack as a set-up to a punch line about sending Nancy Pelosi back to California. With his formulation—violence is wrong, “but…”—he was telling people there was no need to take this seriously.

Every Republican who went on Fox News over the weekend to talk about DePape’s attack as just another example of crime gone wild in liberal San Francisco was doing the same. And saying “but Steve Scalise” and “but Brett Kavanaugh” and “but Lee Zeldin” (two other conservatives who were targets of real or threatened violence this year) has the same effect. Not taking an absolute stand against political violence signals to deranged people that there is no moral standard against that violence, that we are just floating along on a vast sea of carnage that is indiscriminate and random and there’s nothing anyone can do about it, so go ahead, fire away.

Sure, “both sides” are capable of violence. But only one side is regularly inciting it. And some left-wing randos on Twitter don’t count. As if there is an equivalence between some guy with 300 followers and the man in charge of the National Republican Congressional Committee (that’s Emmer).

And finally, what of the biggest inciter of them all? Donald Trump has been silent about the Paul Pelosi attack, as of Monday morning. But we can’t discuss this topic without noting the many times during his rallies back in 2016 when Trump told his crowds to rough up hecklers, promised to pay their legal bills, pined about the old days when they knew how to take care of troublemakers—and, of course, suggested that someone might shoot Hillary Clinton (which is what he did, let’s not kid ourselves).

We are, yet again, in a new dark place. And it’s only going to get darker. You hope that perhaps if, God forbid, some high-ranking Democrat is assassinated, the right will finally say OK, we’ve gone too far? How much longer do you need to watch these people before you understand who they are? They keep telling us. Believe them.


Michael Tomasky @mtomasky

blatham
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2022 08:38 am
@bobsal u1553115,
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You hope that perhaps if, God forbid, some high-ranking Democrat is assassinated, the right will finally say OK, we’ve gone too far?

Perhaps some and perhaps temporarily but if they perceive a threat to electoral success through honestly acknowledging their direct complicity, it's really not likely.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2022 08:42 am
Kari Lake yesterday: “Nancy Pelosi, well, she’s got protection when she’s in DC -- apparently her house doesn’t have a lot of protection.” The crowd burst into laughter and the interviewer was laughing so hard he covered his face with his notes.

What are these people made of? Would they be this cold and nasty if their elderly relative had been beaten with a hammer?

I really cannot with these ******* people.

And they get real bent out of shape at being called deplorable or fascist.
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/Cutachogie/FullSizeRender_hVMAw4MpjxdoP6GK3Jr7qf.jpg
hightor
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2022 09:16 am
@snood,
What's Lake's point? What's remotely humorous?
blatham
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2022 09:24 am
@hightor,
I think the shared yuk yuk there is, "Those liberals. Anything will trigger them. No sense of humor. And heck, don't get me started on those Jews."
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2022 10:08 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

What's Lake's point? What's remotely humorous?


It’s like the saying goes. For them “the cruelty is the point”.
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