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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2022 10:12 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

Frank wrote:
Quote:
I'm not sure I want to condemn her for what her father did. I think her prior legislative record alone shows us what she was and her subsequent behavior on the Jan 6 committee demonstrates a rather surprising willingness to defend some core principles – a side of her we'd never have seen were Trump not such an aberration


I did not write that...although I did agree with it.

I understand there are people who would rather not applaud the few Republicans who are standing up to Trump...often at great damage to their careers.

Okay...do what you will.

I think there is some value in favorably acknowledging those who stand up to that garbage heap...and I will continue to do that.
revelette1
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2022 10:53 am
@Frank Apisa,
Well, I have no career to worry about, moreover, never said one shouldn't applaud her stance on Trump and related issues. All I said was there were other times when her stance were not praiseworthy. Mostly the one on waterboarding.
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Builder
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2022 04:52 pm
Ironic that the press has labeled this remarkable woman "extreme right-wing".

https://vimeo.com/753779795
hightor
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2022 06:26 pm
@Builder,
And do you care to explain what's "ironic" about it? I'd be more inclined to label it "remarkable" – they were accurate!
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2022 06:34 pm
@hightor,
The irony being, the MSM has labeled her "extremist right-wing", while her rhetoric is anything but.....
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2022 06:36 pm
@hightor,
Irony is a concept that’s sadly not within everyone’s grasp.
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BillW
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2022 06:57 pm
@hightor,
He might know a little about irony; but, he knows zip, nada, nothing about the Cheney family and their politics!
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2022 07:22 pm
@BillW,
It's simple. She's taking a long term strategy here: she's betting the Orange Shitgibbon will put the **** stink of political collapse on all the Lindsay Graham GOP who pushed their political luck too far.

When they all fall in two and four years, she'll be golden.

I think she made a smart calculation. I also know she thinks we all are just a bunch of losers, and she'll do very well with a purified, 45 free two to four years from now.
BillW
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2022 07:28 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
The only true American Conservatism today is a few people like Liz Cheney and the Right Wing of the Democratic Party.

If she doesn't run for President - actually, even if she does, she has promised she is going to help some democrats, such as in Arizona. Mostly, where they are ring wing dems, or against repubs she wants to see fail.

But her number one goal appears to be to not let America fail!
snood
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2022 07:35 pm
@BillW,
Her driving purpose as she has stated numerous times is to ensure by any means necessary that Donald Trump never gets anywhere near the Oval Office again.
BillW
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2022 07:36 pm
@snood,
Right and Rep. Liz Cheney said she would campaign against Kari Lake and Doug Mastriano in Arizona and Pennsylvania, both of whom are election deniers.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/liz-cheney-says-campaign-democrats-rcna49306
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Builder
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2022 01:43 am
@snood,
Quote:
Her driving purpose as she has stated numerous times is to ensure by any means necessary that.....


Because he won't carry their can? Has she expressed her reasons why?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2022 02:42 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

Her driving purpose as she has stated numerous times is to ensure by any means necessary that Donald Trump never gets anywhere near the Oval Office again.


Ya gotta wonder why THAT is not the driving purpose of EVERYONE in this country! At least, EVERYONE who has any positive feelings for it.
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2022 02:52 am
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A headline in the New York Times today read: “Factory Jobs Are Booming Like It’s the 1970s.” The story explained that more money in the hands of consumers thanks to federal stimulus spending, along with a new skepticism of stretched supply lines, has created a rebound in American manufacturing.

Since the 1970s, authors Jim Tankersley, Alan Rappeport, and Ana Swanson explain, outsourcing and automation have meant that every recession has seen factory jobs disappear and never return as employers used downturns to move operations to countries with lower wage levels. This time, though, American manufacturers have not only regained all the jobs lost during the pandemic, they have also added about 67,000 more. Those numbers would be higher if the labor market weren’t so tight, a condition leading employers to offer higher wages and better benefits.

Biden has made it clear that he is trying to overturn 40 years of “supply side” economics, ushered in by President Ronald Reagan. This system was designed to free up capital at the top of the economy through tax cuts and deregulation in the belief that putting capital in the hands of the wealthy—the “supply side”— would lead them to invest more in the economy, thus making it grow more quickly and providing more jobs. While Republicans came to embrace that ideology wholeheartedly, in fact it never showed signs of increasing economic growth. What it did was to move wealth dramatically upward. It also made the measure of the economy the health of Wall Street rather than Main Street.

Since Abraham Lincoln’s administration, which faced a similar economic stratification and a similar justification for it, another approach to the economy has stood against this ideology. Leaders from Lincoln to Theodore Roosevelt to Franklin Delano Roosevelt have argued that providing opportunity for people at the lower end of the economy—the “demand side”—would drive production and consumption, spreading prosperity upward. Biden has followed in this tradition. Insisting that he would build the economy “from the bottom up and the middle out,” he, along with the Democrats in Congress, bolstered domestic manufacturing with measures like the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, the Inflation Reduction Act, and the CHIPS and Science Act.

Now, statistics show, that investment has paid off. Chad Moutray, the chief economist for the National Association of Manufacturers, told the New York Times reporters: ​​“We have 67,000 more workers today than we had in February 2020. I didn’t think we would get there, to be honest with you.”

National Economic Council director Brian Deese told the reporters, “One of the most striking things that we are seeing now is the number of companies—U.S. companies and global companies—that are committing to build and expand their manufacturing footprint in the United States, and doing so based on their view that not only did the pandemic highlight the need for more resilience in their supply chains, but that the United States is creating a policy environment that makes long-term investment here in the United States more attractive.”

Meanwhile, the real net worth of the bottom 50% of U.S. households has climbed 60% since Biden took office, now reaching $67,524.

One of the things that will continue to feed this change is the plan to forgive significant student loan debt, especially among low-income Black and Brown Americans. This story is hitting the news today after the Congressional Budget Office responded to a series of questions posed by Senator Richard Burr (R-NC) and Representative Virginia Foxx (R-NC), both fervently opposed to the program. The CBO’s responses to those specific questions have been widely published, suggesting the program will cost the U.S. $400 billion. This is sparking cries about its expense, but this particular CBO number calculates the cost over the next 30 years rather than the usual ten, does not address the stimulus effects of the relief, and does not take into account how much anyone would actually have repaid. The estimate is, the CBO states in its letter, “highly uncertain.”

In contrast to Biden’s economic program, on Friday the new government of Prime Minister Liz Truss announced the most radical tax cuts in Britain since 1972, cutting the top income tax rate as well as corporate taxes to spur the economy. This unfunded cut will mean borrowing at rising interest rates. Concerns about inflation, already hammering the British economy, made the value of the pound, which is the English unit of currency, drop to its lowest level since 1985.

These different economic visions are in conflict here in the United States. Former Trump economic advisor Steve Moore reacted to the Truss tax cuts by saying: “This is exactly what we should be doing in the US.” White House economic advisor Jared Bernstein said: “President Biden has been very clear about the negative track record of trickle-down, Reagan-style tax cuts.”

Republicans have managed to keep voters behind their economic program by downplaying it and emphasizing cultural issues, primarily abortion, which reliably turned out anti-abortion voters. Now that the Supreme Court has overturned the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion, Republicans have a demographic problem: a majority of voters support reproductive rights and are turning out to vote, and there is no longer a reason for anti-abortion voters to show up.

So Republican leaders are downplaying abortion: reporter Eric Garcia noted today that Republican representative and Senate candidate Ted Budd (R-NC), who is a cosponsor of the House version of Senator Lindsey Graham’s (R-SC) national abortion bill, didn’t mention his stance in a recent rally with former president Trump. They are also inventing new cultural crises, most notably an attack on LGBTQIA folks but also a renewed attack on immigrants.

Trump has gone further, jumping aboard the QAnon train, which the FBI considers a domestic terrorism threat, as his own legal troubles are mounting. His lawyers failed to slow down the criminal investigation into his theft of documents, including many marked with the highest levels of classification. New York Attorney General Letitia James has sued Trump, his company, and his children and two associates for fraud. And now the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol is beginning to turn up more information.

On Friday the committee subpoenaed Wisconsin House Speaker Robin Vos to ask about a phone call he had with Trump in July 2022 (not a typo) in which Trump tried to get him to change the 2020 result in Wisconsin. Vos is challenging the subpoena.

In the lead-up to Wednesday’s midday public hearing of the committee, Zachary Cohen of CNN reported today that election denier Phil Waldron, a former Army colonel associated with Trump loyalist Michael Flynn, was in contact with White House chief of staff Mark Meadows in late December 2020 about gaining access to the voting systems in Arizona and Georgia. Waldron referred to Arizona as “our lead domino we were counting on to start the cascade,” to overturn the election.

Meanwhile, Ginni Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court justice Clarence Thomas, was texting QAnon links to Meadows. And now, after flirting with QAnon since 2020, Trump has embraced it wholeheartedly, first “retruthing” social media posts featuring him as a QAnon hero and warning that “The Storm Is Coming,” then using QAnon music at a rally. Now, he has sent out an email calling for the death penalty for drug dealers—a favorite theme of fascists since the 1930s and a major part of the program of former dictator Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines, whom Trump admires—along with the warning that “Under Democrat control, the streets of our great cities are drenched in the blood of innocent victims,” tapping into the QAnon themes of violent retribution for those they see as preying on America’s youth.

“I certainly will do whatever it takes to make sure Donald Trump isn't anywhere close to the Oval Office,” Representative Liz Cheney said this weekend at The Texas Tribune Festival, which highlights politics and policy. “And if he is the nominee, I won't be a Republican.” She warned that a Republican majority in the House would empower Trump Republicans like Jim Jordan (OH), Marjorie Taylor Greene (GA), and Lauren Boebert (CO).

And when asked if Trump should testify before the committee, Cheney answered: “Any interaction that Donald Trump has with the committee will be under oath and subject to penalty of perjury.”

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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2022 05:42 am
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Roger Stone: ‘Let’s get right to the violence’

The day before the 2020 election, Roger Stone, the long-time Republican operative
and ally of former President Donald Trump, said in front of a documentary film crew
that he had no interest in waiting to tally actual votes before contesting the election
results.

“F**k the voting, let’s get right to the violence,” Stone can be heard saying, according
to footage provided by a Danish documentary film crew...
(cnn)
snood
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2022 08:06 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:
Her driving purpose as she has stated numerous times is to ensure by any means necessary that.....


Because he won't carry their can? Has she expressed her reasons why?


Your feigned doe-eyed ignorant question doesn’t any longer elicit in me any hint of incredulity or disgust, as such offal from you once may have. It only validates and reinforces the choice (that every serious thinking person on this forum has clearly made) to take nothing you say seriously, and engage with you only as a form of lowbrow entertainment, as when one humors a dim-witted pet. Have a lovely day.
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revelette1
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2022 09:52 am
@hightor,
If the Trump loyalist only cleared their heads of all the conspiracies and read and listen to all the evidence of Trump and close associates election crimes, also the clear evidence of Trump stealing classified and non-classified documents which belong to the US government and refusing to give them back and how that puts our country at a disadvantage for US and our allies enemies to use against us and them, it would be a great relief.

(sorry for the long run-on sentence, I have a bad habit of it.) I don't know really where to break it off and begin a new sentence, I guess.)
hightor
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2022 10:20 am
@revelette1,
Quote:
If the Trump loyalist only cleared their heads of all the conspiracies...

They could only wish that they had as good a case in the Whitewater investigations or the Benghazi hearings. They're so accustomed to conspiracy theories that they don't know what else to do when confronted with unwelcome evidence.


(It was a good sentence; I followed your reasoning through to the end.)

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2022 11:45 am
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton fled his home to avoid being served with subpoena, court record says

Seems for me that Texas has an AG who doesn't uphold the law but run from it.
BillW
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2022 12:00 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
It also seems to me that in regards to this matter, the State of Texas is on trial and if no one shows up in court to defend Texas, the state loses.
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