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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
revelette1
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2022 02:19 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Why are people so hateful? It just boggles the mind. However, as much as I understand it, this might answer the questions I had of someone in our family we know personally who is struggling in jail with cancer and has to get his kidneys replaced or some kind of kidney operation. He is bi-racial and his case has just been something shameful since the very beginning. Too long to get into, and I am not sure of all my facts, but this is a real problem.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2022 02:22 pm
@revelette1,
A more accurate question might be, why are some people so mean.

I still find if most people are given a chance, they will do the right thing
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revelette1
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2022 02:24 pm
@hightor,
Very good informative piece. Thanks for bringing it.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 08:19 am
Guns kill more teens and kids in America than drugs or cancer, report finds
Firearm-related injuries claimed 4,300 young people’s lives in 2020
Guns now kill more children and teenagers in the United States than car accidents, drug overdoses or cancer, according to new research.

The stunning finding came after researchers analysed decades worth of mortality data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), says the The New England Journal of Medicine.

The study found that gun-related injuries in 2020 claimed 4,300 young people’s lives, which was a jarring 29 per cent jump from the year before - and more than twice as high as the relative increase when compared to the US general population.

They stated that firearm related deaths rising while motor vehicle crash deaths lowered, demonstrates how creating policies for injury prevention can reduce injuries and deaths — and, on the flipside, how a public health problem can be exacerbated in the absence of such attention.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 10:19 am
Well, it was nice while it lasted.

Twitter set to accept Elon Musk offer
hightor
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 10:40 am
@snood,
So depressing...this will open the floodgates for misinformation.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 10:46 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

So depressing...this will open the floodgates for misinformation.


You just messin' around here, Hightor?
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 11:03 am
Judge Holds Trump in Contempt Over Documents in New York A.G.'s Inquiry
Source: New York Times

A New York judge on Monday held Donald J. Trump in contempt of court for failing to turn over documents to the state’s attorney general, an extraordinary rebuke of the former president.

The judge, Arthur F. Engoron, ordered Mr. Trump to comply with a subpoena seeking records and assessed a fine of $10,000 per day until he satisfies the court’s requirements. In essence, the judge concluded that Mr. Trump had failed to cooperate with the attorney general, Letitia James, and follow the court’s orders.

“Mr. Trump: I know you take your business seriously, and I take mine seriously,” Justice Engoron remarked, before holding Mr. Trump in contempt and banging his gavel. The ruling represents a significant victory for Ms. James, whose office is conducting a civil investigation into whether Mr. Trump falsely inflated the value of his assets in annual financial statements.

In January, Ms. James, a Democrat, said her office had concluded that the Trump Organization had engaged in “fraudulent or misleading” practices involving the statements. But she said she would continue to investigate before deciding whether to sue Mr. Trump or his company. Although Ms. James does not have the authority to file criminal charges, her civil inquiry is running parallel to a criminal investigation led by the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, who is examining some of the same conduct.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/25/nyregion/trump-investigation-letitia-james-contempt.html
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 11:06 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

hightor wrote:

So depressing...this will open the floodgates for misinformation.


You just messin' around here, Hightor?


I'm confused...why would that be a joke?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 11:09 am
@Frank Apisa,
No.

For the far right, rich and powerful, freedom of speech is fetishised.

It is the most important freedom, far more important than the right to life even.

In the real World the rich have the loudest voices. My freedom of speech is nothing next to Rupert Murdoch's.

In the virtual world it is more democratic, individuals and be heard, and can make a difference in a way that they never could have done before.

This means the rich can spread lies and misinformation, they can control because freedom of speech means lies are every bit as important as the truth.

The rich have the loudest voices, they can pay to have their version broadcast loud and strong.

Hightor is spot on.

bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 11:14 am
@izzythepush,
The rich are not after any sort of freedom of speech, they are looking to control all venues for speech.

What they are confused about in the US is Free Speech vs. the First Amendment guarantee of no prior restraint on speech. Which means you cannot be arrested for making unprotected speech prior to actually making that speech.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 11:27 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Will Self wrote a really good article about the fetishisation of free speech which means lies and truth are the same, and those with the loudest voices have the most money.

He includes a quotation from HL Mencken.

Good journalism should afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted.

Musk buying Twitter does the opposite.
snood
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 11:29 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Will Self wrote a really good article about the fetishisation of free speech which means lies and truth are the same, and those with the loudest voices have the most money.

He includes a quotation from HL Mencken.

Good journalism should afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted.

Musk buying Twitter does the opposite.


Word
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 11:30 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

hightor wrote:

So depressing...this will open the floodgates for misinformation.


You just messin' around here, Hightor?


I'm confused...why would that be a joke?


Because the "floodgates for misinformation" are already as open as the space above our heads.

One man buying Twitter is to "misinformation" what one man pissing in the Pacific is to the ocean.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 11:31 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:


No.

For the far right, rich and powerful, freedom of speech is fetishised.

It is the most important freedom, far more important than the right to life even.

In the real World the rich have the loudest voices. My freedom of speech is nothing next to Rupert Murdoch's.

In the virtual world it is more democratic, individuals and be heard, and can make a difference in a way that they never could have done before.

This means the rich can spread lies and misinformation, they can control because freedom of speech means lies are every bit as important as the truth.

The rich have the loudest voices, they can pay to have their version broadcast loud and strong.

Hightor is spot on.




See my response to Snood up above, Izzy. That was the basis for my question.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 11:37 am
@izzythepush,
Elon Musk is not interested in anything not Elon Musk. Then again, neither does Mark Zuckerberg care about anything not Mark Zuckerberg. I think a cage match to the death is called for in this case: Two men enter, none leave alive. Course there are those who say Zuckerberg has no living evidence about him except breathing.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 11:37 am
@Frank Apisa,
And the point is, that if you think the floodgates are open now, when Musk buys Twitter we're going to need a ******* Arc.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 11:39 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Elon Musk is not interested in anything not Elon Musk. Then again, neither does Mark Zuckerberg.


Rich men want to stay rich, they want to maintain the status quo, they want to avoid paying taxes.

They have shared interests and aims.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 11:47 am
@Frank Apisa,
One conservative, Trump loving multibillionaire owning a social media platform used regularly by hundreds of millions of people is a damn sight more significant than me pissing in the ocean. C’mon, Frank.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2022 12:22 pm
I accept that the answer to my question is that Hightor was not just messin' around...

...and that the issue has significance for many here.

 

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