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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 05:09 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
oralloy wrote:
I unreservedly support the PKK freedom fighters in their valiant efforts to defend innocent people from genocidal Turks.

And why must children and females by the sole victims or civilians and other Kurds?

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are asking me.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 05:11 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
You previously said that Assad was the sole reason for the trouble in Syria.

I still say that.


izzythepush wrote:
Now you're saying Erdogan might have something to do with it.

No. Turkey's genocide against the Kurds is a separate thing from Assad's genocide against the Syrian people.


izzythepush wrote:
You have just contradicted yourself.

Not really. These two genocides may take place in the same region of the world, but they are two separate atrocities.


izzythepush wrote:
If you check your facts first you might not say such stupid things in the first place.

I do not agree that opposing genocide is stupid.

Really what the West needs to do is relaunch the Crusades and do it right this time. We need to conquer Turkey and Syria and force them all to convert to back to Christianity*. That will give Israel some good neighbors to their north.

* I'd be in favor of letting people remain Muslim if they leave the territory of the former Roman Empire.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 05:12 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
oralloy wrote:
It was only when Mr. Biden took office that the supply of vaccine slowed to a trickle.

That's because of decisions made before he assumed office. It takes a while to produce and distribute vaccines and the orders should have been in the pipeline but weren't. You're making a fallacious post hoc, ergo propter hoc argument.

Progressives always say it's someone else's fault. This reminds me of Venezuela saying that it's the US's fault that their economy is a disaster.



Well the pipe to my area was certainly flowing. My rural area of mostly open countryside and small towns got 8,100 doses by the beginning of January.

We got another 10,150 doses when Mr. Trump released the reserves, so they clearly were not empty.

We mostly get Moderna out here in the countryside. Pfizer needs special technology to keep it colder than the surface of a black hole, so even if there was a problem with ordering doses of Pfizer (a claim that I do not trust the NYT to tell the truth about), that's got nothing to do with the doses that we received.


hightor wrote:
oralloy wrote:
He funded the rapid development of many of these vaccines.

He didn't do anything that any other chief executive would have done in that position.

That isn't necessarily true. It was an expensive gamble, and another leader might have chosen to have vaccines be developed normally.

But in any case, since he did it, he deserves credit for doing it.

Should we deny Mr. Obama any credit for killing Usama bin Laden by saying that any other president would have done the same thing?


hightor wrote:
He signed onto the commitments made by Congress. You make it sound as if he came up with the idea himself and paid for it out of his own pocket!

He was the leader who decided to commit to doing it.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 05:13 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
The party's are supposed to work to find common grou to get things done when they disagree. Since Newt Gingrich's Contract on America in 1992, exacerbated during the obama admn and1000% percent in the trump maladministration, the GOP is not interested in working with democrats. It's their way or the highway, and their way sucks.

That isn't true. Republicans tried to work with Democratic presidents many times.

Democratic Presidents just don't seem to be interested in working with other people.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 05:16 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Yes. But I'm not sure which victims you mean. Victims of the Turks? Victims of the Kurds? What are you referring to?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 05:36 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Kurds are very good Muslims.

Collateral damage happens in any war, but I do not believe Turkish claims about Kurds targeting civilians.

More likely the Turkish government killed the civilians so they could then use that as an excuse to wage genocide against the Kurds.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 05:45 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
More likely the Turkish government killed the civilians so they could then use that as an excuse to wage genocide against the Kurds.
So the Turkish government released the Kurdish claims of these attacks?

Even you should notice that ... never mind.
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 05:56 am
@Walter Hinteler,
You’d do better trying to explain coding to a squirrel.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 06:07 am
@snood,
Some of us just are against genocide no matter what the circumstances.

You'll never be able to "explain" to us how genocide is a good thing.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 06:08 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
So the Turkish government released the Kurdish claims of these attacks?

I'm not sure what you are referring to. But maybe.


Walter Hinteler wrote:
never mind.

kk
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 06:28 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
It really shouldn't remind you of that because the two situations really could not be more different. Difficulties in US-Venezuelan relations go back a long way and US involvement in attempting to undermine the quasi-socialist government there is well-documented. With the vaccine pipeline we're only talking about a few weeks. Temporary shortages and distribution bottlenecks weren't unexpected but supplies are steadily increasing.

It's still the left blaming everyone but themselves when they screw everything up.


hightor wrote:
I got my second shot yesterday.

Cool. I'm too young to fit into the current phase. I'm looking at ways to get myself qualified when the next phase of people come up though.

I've also figured out how to bypass the waiting list once I am able to get myself qualified for the shot, so I should be able to get right in once I qualify. That's how I got all of my over-65 friends and relatives January appointments for the shot.

If they give me the Johnsen & Johnsen version, I'm going to make sure I get a second dose later this year once the supply outstrips demand. None of this single shot nonsense.

I've also thought about waiting until June for Novavax. It looks like it is just as effective as Pfizer and Moderna.


hightor wrote:
Sure -- in the context of discussions concerning extrajudicial assassinations by USAmerican presidents someone could justifiably express that opinion.

Mr. Obama deserves credit for killing Usama bin Laden.
hightor
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 06:32 am
@oralloy,
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It's still the left blaming everyone but themselves when they screw everything up.

Nothing was screwed up. "Providers are administering about 1.55 million doses per day on average." Look at the chart HERE. Distribution has steadily increased.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 06:42 am
@hightor,
I consider all these deaths to be the result of the Democrats. That counts as a screw up in my book.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 06:51 am
@Region Philbis,
The first part is good advice. It's a shame that progressives don't follow it.

The second part though, I don't know about. I stand my ground when I am right.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 09:59 am
@revelette3,
Don't be disingenuous. Mr. Bush was never given intelligence about Usama bin Laden's location.
 

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