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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 10:56 am
@snood,
snood wrote:
Robert Mueller gave us 10 - count 'em, TEN counts of obstruction of justice

Given the Democrats' history of fabricating obstruction charges against innocent people, no one believes the Democrats this time.

And given the Democrats' already-established precedent that presidential obstruction is only worth a minor fine, even if such obstruction charges could be believed its hard to see any justification for a stiffer penalty.

And then there is the fact that this entire use of the obstruction statute is unconstitutional.


snood wrote:
and abuse of power that he said could not be brought against a sitting president.

You have that backwards. It is the Democrats who are abusing their power.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 03:45 pm
@oralloy,
Trump spent four years abusing his powe and obstructing justice.Just some of the many reasons he is no longer president, and lost so ignominiously. and whines about it so incessantly.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 04:47 pm
Belarus has forced a commercial flight between Greece and Lithuania to land in Minsk. The plane was detained for two hours before being allowed to resume flight, but not after a dissident journalist was removed from the plane.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 04:52 pm
@izzythepush,
That's not good. (I know, I'm stating the obvious there.)

Hopefully airlines will start rerouting to avoid Belarussian airspace.

Sanctions sound like a good idea too, unless they quickly free the dissident they grabbed.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 04:55 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Trump spent four years abusing his power

That is incorrect. It's the Democrats who are abusing their power.


MontereyJack wrote:
and obstructing justice.

Nice try. But we both know that the Democrats have a history of framing innocent people for obstruction. Remember Scooter Libby.

Using the obstruction statute that way would be unconstitutional in any case.

And even if it had actually been true that obstruction had occurred, the Democrats have already set a precedent that presidential obstruction only carries a penalty of a light fine.

So, in the unlikely event that the left can ever prove that this supposed "obstruction" is not just another one of their frameup jobs, and in the unlikely event that the left can convince the Supreme Court that the Constitution even allows this use of the obstruction statute, we can have Mr. Trump sign a check for a few dollars, and that will conclude the matter.
goldberg
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 06:23 pm
@oralloy,
They called Marjorie Green slapper. Then is it okay for someone to call AOC wench? She used to work in a bar。 Traditionalists in some nations think that only louche girls are content to work in such places. They also argue that a night club is just a brothel.
goldberg
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 06:32 pm
@oralloy,
What a pity. You haven't been able to figure out what they are doing here. The far-left liberals here don't care about facts. They just want to show people how they hate Trump and the Republican Party. You could even call it the antithesis of Breitbart. In other words, it's just far-left activism on steroids.

I don't even know if I'm still a liberal or not after meeting such self-styled liberals talking like extremists.
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goldberg
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 06:37 pm
Liberals are supposed to cast their lot with Israel. It seems to be a different case here.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 06:40 pm
@goldberg,
Progressives are closet neonazis.

They don't deserve to be called liberals. Actual liberals believe in civil liberties.
goldberg
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 06:40 pm
@MontereyJack,
How's the weather in Moscow and Venezuela?
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goldberg
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 06:44 pm
@oralloy,
I was going to say that. There are no grounds to think that a genuine liberal would accept Bernie Sanders and AOC's progressive policies with alacrity. They also want to bring Comintern back?
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 06:45 pm
@goldberg,
goldberg wrote:
They called Marjorie Green slapper. Then is it okay for someone to call AOC wench? She used to work in a bar。 Traditionalists in some nations think that only louche girls are content to work in such places. They also argue that a night club is just a brothel.

I had a reply but it disappeared. Apparently rude epithets are only acceptable here if they are directed at conservative politicians.
goldberg
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 06:50 pm
@oralloy,
Marjorie Green is white. And she is said to have called out AOC several times. That's why far-left folk just do a slow burn if you don't want to chastise her .

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goldberg
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 06:55 pm
@oralloy,
I also find that even some conservative columnists are gung ho about blaming Trump for everything, including Peggy Noonan. The Republican Party doesn't need parti pris piffle. What it needs now is solidarity.
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goldberg
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 06:59 pm
It would be invidious to claim that it's all Trump's fault. America''s economy was going gangbusters when he was the president. The emergence of Covid-19 spoiled the show.
goldberg
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 07:02 pm
Poor Biden. An avuncular man like him has to work with racists like AOC and Kamala Harris.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 08:27 pm
@goldberg,
bullshit. they aren't.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 08:29 pm
@goldberg,
If you actually loook at the trajectory of the economy since the gop meltdown of 2008, it was Obama's doing. All trump did was not **** up whe steadily growing economy obama left him. we've been thru this a number of times.
BillW
 
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Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 08:32 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Belarus has forced a commercial flight between Greece and Lithuania to land in Minsk. The plane was detained for two hours before being allowed to resume flight, but not after a dissident journalist was removed from the plane.

Quote:
Belarus has often been described as "Europe's last dictatorship" by some media outlets, politicians and authors due to its authoritarian government;

-wiki

Part of Russia is in Europe; Russia democratic? Not in my mind!

Yeah, the plane was brought down for security reasons; a dissident who didn't even live in the country, just happened to be flying over it.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 23 May, 2021 08:48 pm
@oralloy,
once again your knowledge of the legal system is pretty much nonexistent.
 

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