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Can Trump Pardon Himself?

 
 
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 01:49 am
@oralloy,
Sure I can. Unless you want to argue with the U.S. Government...

PARDON INFORMATION AND INSTRUCTIONS
Information and Instructions on Pardons
Please read carefully before completing the pardon application

1. Submit the petition to the Office of the Pardon Attorney

All petitions, except petitions relating to military offenses (see paragraph 6 below), should be emailed to the Office of the Pardon Attorney at [email protected]. While email allows your transmission to be accepted and processed more quickly and allows us to correspond with you more easily, we will also accept mailed materials at the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of the Pardon Attorney, 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C. 20530. The completed pardon petition must be entirely legible; therefore, please type or print in ink. The form must be completed fully and accurately and notarized in order to be considered. You may attach to the petition additional pages and documents that amplify or clarify your answer to any question. Please do not staple, glue, bind or tape any portion of your petition or supplemental documents. We also will not accept pictures of documents, so they must be scanned on a flatbed scanner and submitted in PDF format if sent electronically.

2. Federal convictions only

Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. In addition, the President's pardon power extends to convictions adjudicated in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia and military court-martial proceedings. However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense. Accordingly, if you are seeking clemency for a state criminal conviction, you should not complete and submit this petition. Instead, you should contact the Governor or other appropriate authorities of the state where you reside or where the conviction occurred (such as the state board of pardons and paroles) to determine whether any relief is available to you under state law. If you have a federal conviction, information about the conviction may be obtained from the clerk of the federal court where you were convicted.

3. Five-year waiting period required

Under the Department's rules governing petitions for executive clemency, 28 C.F.R. §§ 1.1 et seq., an applicant must satisfy a minimum waiting period of five years before he becomes eligible to apply for a presidential pardon of his federal conviction. The waiting period, which is designed to afford the petitioner a reasonable period of time in which to demonstrate an ability to lead a responsible, productive and law-abiding life, begins on the date of the petitioner's release from confinement. Alternatively, if the conviction resulted in a sentence that did not include any form of confinement, including community or home confinement, the waiting period begins on the date of sentencing. In addition, the petitioner should have fully satisfied the penalty imposed, including all probation, parole, or supervised release before applying for clemency. Moreover, the waiting period begins upon release from confinement for your most recent conviction, whether or not this is the offense for which pardon is sought. You may make a written request for a waiver of this requirement. However, waiver of any portion of the waiting period is rarely granted and then only in the most exceptional circumstances. In order to request a waiver, you must complete the pardon application form and submit it with a cover letter explaining why you believe the waiting period should be waived in your case.


4. Reason for seeking pardon

In answering question 20, you should state the specific purpose for which you are seeking pardon and, if applicable, attach any relevant documentary evidence that indicates how a pardon will help you accomplish that purpose (such as citations to applicable provisions of state constitutions, statutes, or regulations, or copies of letters from appropriate officials of administrative agencies, professional associations, licensing authorities, etc.). In addition, you should bear in mind that a presidential pardon is ordinarily a sign of forgiveness and is granted in recognition of the applicant's acceptance of responsibility for the crime and established good conduct for a significant period of time after conviction or release from confinement. A pardon is not a sign of vindication and does not connote or establish innocence. For that reason, when considering the merits of a pardon petition, pardon officials take into account the petitioner's acceptance of responsibility, remorse, and atonement for the offense.

5. Multiple federal convictions

If you have more than one federal conviction, the most recent conviction should be shown in response to question 2 of the petition and the form completed as to that conviction. For all other federal convictions, including convictions by military courts-martial, the information requested in questions 2 through 6 of the petition should be provided on an attachment. Any federal charges not resulting in conviction should be reported in the space provided for prior and subsequent criminal record (question 7).

6. Pardon of a military offense

If you are requesting pardon of a court-martial conviction only, you should submit your completed petition directly to the Secretary of the military department that had original jurisdiction in your case, and listing in your responses to questions 2 through 6 and question 15 of the petition form all pertinent information concerning your court-martial trial and conviction. The addresses for submitting a request for a pardon of a court-martial conviction are as follows:

U.S. Army:
Secretary of the Army
Department of the Army
ATTN: OTJAG-CLD
Pentagon
Washington, DC 20310

U.S. Navy/U.S. Marine Corps:
Office of the Judge Advocate General
Criminal Law Division (Code 20)
1254 Charles Morris Street S.E.,
Suite B01
Washington Navy Yard, D.C. 20374

U.S. Air Force:
Secretary of the Air Force
Attention: AFLOA/JAJR
1500 W. Perimeter Road,
Suite 1170
Joint Base Andrews Naval Air Facility, MD 20762

Pardon of a military offense will not change the character of a military discharge. An upgrade or other change to a military discharge may only be accomplished by action of the appropriate military authorities. To apply for a review of a military discharge, you should write to the relevant military branch, at the address listed below:

U.S. Army:
Army Review Boards Agency
251 18th Street South
Arlington, Virginia 22202-4508

U.S. Navy/U.S. Marine Corps:
Secretary of the Navy
Naval Council of Personnel Records
702 Kennon Street, SE
Suite 309
Washington Navy Yard, DC 20374-5023

U.S. Air Force:
Air Force Review Boards Agency
SAF/MRBR
550C Street West
Suite 40
Randolph Air Force Base, Texas 78150-4742

7. Additional arrest record

In response to question 7, you must disclose any additional arrest or charge by any civilian or military law enforcement authority, including any federal, state, local, or foreign authority, whether it occurred before or after the offense for which you are seeking pardon. Your answer should list every violation, including traffic violations that resulted in an arrest or criminal charge, such as driving under the influence. Your failure to disclose any such arrest, whether or not it resulted in conviction, may be construed as a falsification of the petition.

8. Credit status and civil lawsuits

In response to question 14, you must list all delinquent credit obligations, whether or not you dispute them. You must also list all civil lawsuits in which you were named as a party, whether as plaintiff or defendant, including bankruptcy proceedings. You must also list all unpaid tax obligations, whether federal, state, or local. You may submit explanatory material in connection with any of these matters (such as an agreed method of payment for indebtedness).

9. Character references

At least three character affidavits must accompany the petition. If you submit more than three, you should designate the three persons whom you consider to be primary references. The affidavit forms provided are preferred. However, letters of recommendation may be substituted if they contain the full name, address, and telephone number of the reference, indicate a knowledge of the offense for which you seek pardon, and bear a notarized signature. Persons related to you by blood or marriage cannot be used as primary character references.

10. Effect of a pardon

While a presidential pardon will restore various rights lost as a result of the pardoned offense and should lessen to some extent the stigma arising from a conviction, it will not erase or expunge the record of your conviction. Therefore, even if you are granted a pardon, you must still disclose your conviction on any form where such information is required, although you may also disclose the fact that you received a pardon. In addition, most civil disabilities attendant upon a federal felony conviction, such as loss of the right to vote and hold state public office, are imposed by state rather than federal law, and also may be removed by state action. Because the federal pardon process is exacting and may be more time-consuming than analogous state procedures, you may wish to consult with the appropriate authorities in the state of your residence regarding the procedures for restoring your state civil rights.

11. Scope of investigation

Pardon officials conduct a very thorough review in determining a petitioner's worthiness for relief. Accordingly, you should be prepared for a detailed inquiry into your personal background and current activities. Among the factors entering into this determination are the nature, seriousness and recentness of the offense, your overall criminal record, any specific hardship you may be suffering because of the conviction, and the nature and extent of your post-conviction involvement in community service, or charitable or other meritorious activities. We encourage you to submit information concerning your community contributions.

12. Penalty for false statements

The failure to fully and accurately complete the application form may be construed as a falsification of the petition, which may provide a reason for denying your petition. In addition, the knowing and willful falsification of a document submitted to the government may subject you to criminal punishment, including up to five years’ imprisonment and a $250,000 fine. See 18 U.S.C. §§ 1001 and 3571.

13. Exclusive Presidential authority

The power to grant pardons is vested in the President alone. No hearing is held on the pardon application by either the Department of Justice or the White House. You will be notified in writing directed to the last address you provided during the pardon process when a final decision is made on your petition. There is no appeal from the President's decision to deny a clemency request. The Office of the Pardon Attorney does not disclose information regarding the nature or results of any investigation that may have been undertaken in a particular case, or the exact point in the clemency process at which a particular petition is pending at a given time. As a matter of well-established policy, the specific reasons for the President's decision to grant or deny a petition generally are not disclosed by either the White House or the Department of Justice. In addition, documents reflecting deliberative communications pertaining to presidential decision-making, such as the Department's recommendation to the President in a clemency matter, are confidential and not available under the Freedom of Information Act. If your petition is denied, you may submit a new petition for consideration two years from the date of denial.

Continue to next step

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardon-information-and-instructions
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:01 am
oralloy wrote:
neptuneblue wrote:
He hasn't been charged with anything, yet.
Irrelevant.
The president can pardon someone even if he hasn't been charged?

That would be a blank cheque for any future violation of the law.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:02 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
your very misquote of the US Constitution Article II sec 2.

No such misquote.


farmerman wrote:
Get it right,

I always do.


farmerman wrote:
dont try to bluff.

You're the only person here who is trying to bluff.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:03 am
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
Sure I can.

No you can't.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:04 am
@oralloy,
I just did.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:08 am
@neptuneblue,
No you didn't. You did not point out a single untrue statement in my posts.
neptuneblue
 
  2  
Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:11 am
@oralloy,
Seriously dude, get a new hobby.

oralloy
 
  -4  
Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:12 am
@neptuneblue,
No. I like telling the truth. It suits my personality.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:16 am
@oralloy,
You voiced an opinion, which was proved wrong by the U.S. Government.

Your personality needs a little work.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:18 am
@neptuneblue,
Wrong. I stated facts.

Progressives don't like facts and frequently try to prove that facts are wrong.

Thus far no progressive has ever succeeded in proving that facts are wrong. They do keep trying however.

The US government has not posted here tonight. If it had, I doubt that it would try to prove that facts are wrong.

My personality suits me just fine.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:21 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
The president can pardon someone even if he hasn't been charged?

Correct.


Walter Hinteler wrote:
That would be a blank cheque for any future violation of the law.

Pardons are not usually seen as covering future offenses, only past ones.
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:23 am
@oralloy,
Argue in a Court of Law, when Trump is in shackles.

Your opinion is not the facts.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:26 am
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
Argue in a Court of Law, when Trump is in shackles.

Outlawing the Democratic Party will put an end to such abuses of power.

And if the President chooses to pardon himself that will be the end of any federal prosecution against him.


neptuneblue wrote:
Your opinion is not the facts.

I never said otherwise.

It's progressives who always confuse facts and opinion.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:31 am
@oralloy,
Alas the Democratic Party is alive and well, thank you for pointing out the obvious.

It's only you that produce no evidence nor facts.

Please cite anything that would possibly contribute to an intelligent conversation.

Otherwise...

STFU.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:38 am
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
It's only you that produce no evidence nor facts.

Wrong again. I've posted plenty of facts. Most of the facts that have been posted in this thread have come from me.

I also always provide cites to back up my claims upon request.


neptuneblue wrote:
Please cite anything that would possibly contribute to an intelligent conversation.
Otherwise...
STFU.

I do not intend to stay silent.

But here is a cite:

Article. II.
Section. 2.
"he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States"

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript#toc-section-2--2
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:40 am
@oralloy,
You forgot about the part about being convicted...
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:45 am
@neptuneblue,
There is no such part.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:49 am
@oralloy,
Once again, as tedious as it is:



2. Federal convictions only

Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. In addition, the President's pardon power extends to convictions adjudicated in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia and military court-martial proceedings. However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense. Accordingly, if you are seeking clemency for a state criminal conviction, you should not complete and submit this petition. Instead, you should contact the Governor or other appropriate authorities of the state where you reside or where the conviction occurred (such as the state board of pardons and paroles) to determine whether any relief is available to you under state law. If you have a federal conviction, information about the conviction may be obtained from the clerk of the federal court where you were convicted.

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardon-information-and-instructions
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:52 am
@neptuneblue,
I agree that the president cannot pardon offenses against state governments. I never said otherwise.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 02:59 am
@oralloy,
Thank you for agreeing. However the question wasn't about state government which we all know Trump cannot pardon himself against criminal conviction, but about federal crimes, which he also cannot do.
 

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