@farmerman,
I have noticed that it almost impossible to get a straight factual answer from them. as you stated they try to turn your words 180 degrees in an attempt to change the meaning of ones posts. they post absolute lies that can easily be proved wrong and when shot down post muliipule untrue posts hoping that other posters will forget they were proven to be liars. debating such people is a waste of time which is why I point out the fact they are liars rather than try to debate them. I can't figure out which ones are paid communist provacatuers there seem to be so many candidates some who have been here for years. I have come close to leaving the site multiple times and than one of the republican posters something that is so obviously untrue I just have to post an insult in order to let them know they haven't fooled most posters.