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Republicans Are Social Distancing from (Trump)

 
 
Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 08:05 pm
Republicans Are Social Distancing from (Trump)



Published July 31, 2020



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Donald Trump has proposed some pretty loopy stuff during his presidency. He pitched the idea of buying Greenland. He proposed the nullification of hurricanes with nukes. He discussed issuing an executive order to end birthright citizenship. He called himself the chosen one. The way to treat veteran depression, he said, was for the Department of Veteran Affairs to buy and distribute massive amounts of ketamine. He even claimed to be winning the war against Covid-19.

At each bonkers juncture, Trump could always depend on his Republican allies to look away, say they hadn’t seen the president’s crazed tweet, or concoct an elaborate defense of Trump’s asininity, as Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas did on the Greenland purchase idea. Cotton published a New York Times op-ed praising the geopolitical brilliance of the suggested transaction.

But Trump’s streak ended this week after he mused in a Thursday tweet about delaying the November election—which would require an act of Congress—and a tornadic waterspout of official Republican disapproval drenched him. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell flatly rejected the idea in a TV interview and Rep. Liz Cheney, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, and Senators Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham shared his scorn. The closest any big deal Republicans came to backing the delay was Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who declined to give a thumbs up or down to the idea, and Trump campaign spokesman Hogan Gidley, who meekly offered that Trump was merely “raising a question.” Sen. John Cornyn tried marginalizing it as a “joke.” But after nobody rose to second Trump’s idea, even he climbed down later in the day. “Do I want to see a date change? No,” Trump said at a press conference. “But I don’t want to see a crooked election.”

From whence did this new Republican spine come? If they’d never made of show of contradicting his banana republican ideas before, why make a fuss about postponing an election?

Institutional Republicans have always been obedient to Trump, but like hungry dogs, their obedience has been conditional. They have submitted to him or averted their eyes during his maximum moments of overreach, not out of direct fear of his wrath but because 1) they feared he might turn voters against him by “primarying” them and 2) they had no incentive to abandon him.

But in recent months as Trump has botched the Covid-19 recovery and crashed the economy and he has descended in the polls, Trump’s stranglehold on his fellow Republicans has weakened to a fingerhold. Practically every major news outlet—the Los Angeles Times; the Chicago Tribune; the Washington Post; the New York Times; the Atlantic; POLITICO; NPR, etc.—has foretold the disaster the impending Trump defeat will visit upon the Republican Senate, and that has bestowed on Republicans the sauve qui peut incentive they needed. If Trump is truly losing voters, he’s also losing sway over Republican legislators. Trump-sympathetic lawmakers, such as Sen. Susan Collins and Graham are already suffering in the polls thanks to their association with the man. They know that prolonging the contact with Trump only increases the chances of infection. This is not to say that one tweet in July has caused Trump’s Republican brothers to abandon him, but the calculated distancing by top GOP leaders signals their willingness to break up with the party boss.

Congressional Republicans stiffed Trump for another reason. Every Republican running this has a budget, a strategy to win their seat, and a calendar that stops on November 3, and while it might help Trump for them to postpone the election, it’s too late in the process for a date change to help them. In fact, changing the date can only hurt Republicans who will have to defend their votes as a blatant attempt to throw the election to Trump. Because most incumbents, Republican or Democrat, win reelection—postponement will only introduce unhappy chaos into these cinched contests, and neither party wants that.

Finally, there’s no way the Democratic-controlled House would ever oblige Trump by voting for a new Election Day, so the idea of changing the date—something that can’t happen—doesn’t even merit the status of hypothetical.

By combining stupid with impossible at a time when stupid plus impossible can no longer work for him, Trump has signaled his desperation. It's no accident that Federalist Society co-founder Steven Calabresi, a long-time defender of all things Trump, picked the delayed election moment to stab him in the back with a Thursday New York Times op-ed calling the Election Day delay unconstitutional and insisting on his impeachment and conviction if he doesn’t repent.

If Trump fails to rebound in the polls, be on the lookout for more social distancing by his Republican colleagues and supporters, even the evangelicals, then informal articles of separation, and by November, divorce.



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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 05:37 am
@Real Music,
I dont think history will recall Calabresi's act as a "Stab in the backI think it will be remembered the same as was the plot to assassinate Hitler in 1944.
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 05:49 am
@McGentrix,
Yes, because I totally expect the President of the United States to act like he "pretends" to not know our laws, unless of course, he really IS that stupid. Excuses by his followers are running thin.

Why do you feel this is necessary, acceptable or even a joke?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 05:55 am
@neptuneblue,
When Trump was taped boasting about sexually assaulting young girls McGentrix made it his avatar.

I doubt there’s anything Trump could do that McGentrix would fault.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 06:22 am
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
Why do you feel this is necessary, acceptable or even a joke?

Come on now. What's the big deal?
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 06:28 am
@oralloy,
I expect better.

It's sad you don't.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 08:13 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

When Trump was taped boasting about sexually assaulting young girls McGentrix made it his avatar.

I doubt there’s anything Trump could do that McGentrix would fault.


I am pretty sure we've been through this and I showed you what a complete dumbass you were for repeating it... Do I need to embarrass you again?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 08:36 am
@McGentrix,
You’re someone who considers sexual assault alpha male behaviour.

That’s what you are.
justaguy2
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 09:35 am
"Republicans are social distancing from trump"... now that's a turn of phrase for the current times if I've ever seen one!

But seriously, the republicans have no choice but to fall in behind trump as long as trump is their "presidential candidate", even if some would prefer someone else as the republican candidate instead. And that's not because trump is a "good republican" either, it's because disunity is death, and in this case, defeat at the upcoming election. It's the same for the democrats in that regard too - they have to get behind biden if they want to have any chance at winning and defeating trump and by extension, the republicans.

What will be very interesting, and we'll have to wait until the result of the upcoming election to find out, is if biden wins, if the republicans dump trump, and if so, how quickly they do it. Then we'll know which republicans are true trump loyalists... THAT will be interesting to find out. Because that's when people's true colors will come out, but once again, it relies on trump losing though, that's the only catch...
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 09:41 am
@justaguy2,
that would only have a chance, if Trump loses BIG. If hes very close, it will become another "Its all lies and fraud" campaign that we know he is fond of asserting.
Hes a goddam crminal, Hes a pathological liar and he has not conscience that even allows "tells" to show through. Hes a case for the nuthouse and this country has never ever seen his kind before , even Woodrow Wilson or Nixon.
justaguy2
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 09:48 am
@farmerman,
While I can see your point, I'm not sure he'd have to lose big per se. Because if there is a significant number of republicans that would prefer someone else now, then in their minds, a loss might still be a loss if you know what I mean. In that case, trump crying "lies and fraud" may well backfire on him too and push the same republicans over the edge to demand someone else be their next candidate for 2024.

I think either way, and in a strange way, the truth will come out come the upcoming US election. But that said, there is no doubt trump hasn't wasted any time setting up a pretext in the event of him losing the upcoming election...
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 11:18 am
I saw a flyer in my local paper saying that psychiatrists are offering a sale on electroshock therapy treatment for victims of TDS.

A2k progressives might want to look into whether there are similar sales in their own regions. You lunatics don't have to keep suffering.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 12:51 pm
@izzythepush,
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You’re someone who considers sexual assault alpha male behaviour.

You are someone who thinks alpha Muslim men can rape children, you and your leaders.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 01:49 pm
@justaguy2,
That's true but Im more afraid what craziness Trump would engage to sustain his regime should the vote be close. I dont like thinking that we'd have to trust the rest of the GOP legislators to " do the right thing". Theyve only now been turning on him because those that turn are up for reelection
Look at McConnell now and in the recent past. Hes been a true felonious weasel by fellating Trump. Now the Polls have his DEM opponent with a comfortable lead in the polls but these GOPers are quick to come up with something brutal and mostly immoral.

Im always certain as to what theyve tried to pull each time becaue, if you notice, THE GOP will start to accuse the other prties of illegalities that the GOP was originally engaged in


I think McConnell is gonna be key should there be a close vote.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 01:59 pm
@justaguy2,
duhh, sorry. My summary point is that, should Trump lose BIG, there would NOT be any pressure on the Legislature and USSC to back him. They could just let him disapper in the smoke as another Woodrow Wilson, Nixon and with a new claimant to the sobriquet of "Last POTUS or the"WORST GODDAM PRESIDENT WE EVER DUN HAD"
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2020 03:51 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
Most of us just think "Yeah, that's something Trump would put on Twitter. I wonder what's going on in the background that he is keeping from the media . . .

So you also care.
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BillW
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2020 01:01 am
Washington (CNN)

Sen. Mitch McConnell is allowing Republican Senate candidates to do whatever it takes to salvage their campaigns ahead of what Republicans increasingly fear could be a devastating election for their party.

In recent weeks, the Senate majority leader has become so concerned over Republicans losing control of the Senate that he has signaled to vulnerable GOP senators in tough races that they could distance themselves from the President if they feel it is necessary, according to multiple senior Republicans including a source close to McConnell.
That could mean breaking with Trump on the administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic and the continued efforts by the President to paint an optimistic picture despite rising cases and deaths across parts of the country, especially in many Republican states in the South and Midwest.

While this may give some senators the flexibility to draw a distinction between themselves and the President, it also forces them to walk a tightrope. Trump remains enormously popular with the Republican base, and any attempts to undercut him risks alienating those voters.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2020 02:35 pm
@BillW,
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despite rising cases and deaths across parts of the country, especially in many Republican states in the South and Midwest.

That is a lie. Cases are rising due to increased testing, deaths are not. 99.7% survive Covid 19.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2020 04:02 pm
@coldjoint,
Daths are a following indicator. Id rathr know what e are dealing with than just keeping heads up your asses with that silly "testing is the reason for the rise in cases"
Actually all that says is that testing has been wholly inadequate, we dont even have a statistical sample.

 

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