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What are rural American versions of "what the heck" that aren't mild oaths or expetives?

 
 
Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 11:22 am
Hi. I'm doing some research on this.

What are rural American versions of "what the heck" that aren't mild oaths or expetives?

"What in tarnation", "what in blue blazes", and "what in Sam Hill" are mild oaths or expletives and I can't use any of these idioms. Especially if I'm writing anything for children.

I know "what the hey" is an idiom used by rural Americans, according to some research I did.

What other idioms can I use?

Do rural Americans actually say "what the hay" too?

Please help. Thank you.
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 11:31 am
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

"What in tarnation", "what in blue blazes", and "what in Sam Hill" are mild oaths or expletives and I can't use any of these idioms. Especially if I'm writing anything for children.


I think you’re being ridiculous.

I’ll take your word that said expressions have a vulgar derivation, but they don’t mean that now. They were in American comics back in the 60s if not earlier.

No parent is going to get upset if their kid says any of the above.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 11:53 am
I just realized I misspelled the title of the thread. It should read:

What are rural American versions of "what the heck" that aren't mild oaths or expletives?
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 11:54 am
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:


"What in tarnation", "what in blue blazes", and "what in Sam Hill" are mild oaths or expletives and I can't use any of these idioms.



Or any variations of these idioms.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 12:39 pm
@izzythepush,
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/sam-hill :

"Sam Hill
noun Slang.
hell (used especially in WH-questions as a mild oath expressing exasperation and usually preceded by in or the):
Who in Sam Hill are you?"

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/tarnation?s=ts :

"tarnation[ tahr-ney-shuh n ] Older Use.
interjection
damnation.

noun
damnation; hell (used as a euphemism):
Where in tarnation is that boy?
adverb
damned."

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/What+in+Sam+Hill%3F :

"What in Sam Hill?
What in (the) Sam Hill?
An exclamation used to express surprise, shock, anger, disgust, etc. ("Sam Hill" is a minced oath for "hell," used for emphasis.)
What in the Sam Hill do you think you're doing? You can't come in here!
Just what in Sam Hill is going on here?
You spent all that money at a casino? What the Sam Hill, Jake?
See also: SAM, what
Farlex Dictionary of Idioms. © 2015 Farlex, Inc, all rights reserved.
What in (the) Sam Hill?
Inf. What has happened?; What? (An elaboration of what. Sam Hill is a euphemism for hell. Often with the force of an exclamation. See examples for variations.) What in Sam Hill is going on around here? What in the Sam Hill do you think you are doing?"

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/529891/why-does-blue-blazes-specify-the-color-blue-and-what-is-the-origin-of-this-ex#:~:text=Blue%20blazes%20(n.)%20(,blue%20blazes%2C%20go%20blue%20blazes.:

"The earliest usage GDoS suggests is from AmE:

Blue blazes (n.) (also blue blaizes)

a euphemism for hell, usually in phrases; e.g. hot as blue blazes, go blue blazes.

1818"

If parents really knew what "blue blazes", "tarnation", "Sam Hill" and related idioms meant they wouldn't be using these terms and idioms, and they wouldn't let their kids use them.

Are British parents okay with their kids using "bloody" or "blooming"? These are British euphemisms for "effing".
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 12:58 pm
@JGoldman10,
No parent worries about blooming, some are a bit touchy about bloody.
Sturgis
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 02:12 pm
Gosh dang it!
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jespah
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 06:08 pm
@JGoldman10,
Most parents neither know nor care that these expressions were originally curse words.

My math teacher in 9th grade used to say, "Oh, fudge!" if she broke a nail. You can still mention fudge to children. The world won't end.

Same with Sam Hill, etc.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 06:18 pm
@jespah,
you people are anti-ruralites.
Rabid anti ruralites.
Do we rurals have feelings? If you cut us do we not bleed??

You are all one main bearing short of a John Deere
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chai2
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 06:32 pm
@jespah,
Nuh uh Jespah.

Your teacher is obviously burning in hell.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 08:13 pm
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

Hi. I'm doing some research on this.

What are rural American versions of "what the heck" that aren't mild oaths or expletives?

"What in tarnation", "what in blue blazes", and "what in Sam Hill" are mild oaths or expletives and I can't use any of these idioms. Especially if I'm writing anything for children.

I know "what the hey" is an idiom used by rural Americans, according to some research I did.

What other idioms can I use?

Do rural Americans actually say "what the hay" too?

Please help. Thank you.


-FIXED.
chai2
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 10:32 pm
@JGoldman10,
What is it you think you're accomplishing when you quote your post, and then type FIXED under it?

Do you think anyone is taking the time to go back and compare your initial post word for word with your quoted and "fixed" version?

No one is.

If you want to edit something, and you feel like it's that important, just type a new post and say whatever it is you wanted to.

Believe me, ain't nobody checking to see what you FIXED.
Sturgis
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 10:36 pm
Well, fiddle-dee-dee!
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jespah
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 07:18 am
@chai2,
Probably more for Algebra than anything else, yes.
chai2
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 10:18 am
@jespah,
Some algebra teachers, yes.

I always, from high school freshman year, struggled with algebra, barely passing.
I just couldn't get past "What is x?" No matter how many times I asked, the only answer would be "it's whatever you want it to be"
Me: Then what is y"
Whatever you want it to be.
So it's the same thing?
No. Well, sometimes.

In college I had to take it, and it put me in a flop sweat.

I remember going to the instructor and telling her I really couldn't manage to get the right answer the way she did it, but if I did "this", even though I still couldn't understand it, it worked.

She told me if I did it that way, I'd be marked wrong.

Right after that, she had to take a medical leave of absence, and we got a new teacher. When I went to her, she said fine, as long as I could produce the work. That's the only thing that helped me pass.

Then, I had to take statistics, and everyone was saying how hard it was.
I sat in class so fearful.

Early on in the class the professor said "So let's say you wanted to find the temperature in the center of the air space in an attic" and he wrote "x" on the board.

Jumping Jehoshaphat!!!

You mean THAT's what x is!?
Well then, let's get to work!

I easily aced the class. I loved that professor.

Whenever someone didn't understand something, he had a million different example to explain, and didn't stop until that light bulb turned on.

I could not believe in all those years, no one even thought to give a concrete example.

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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 10:03 pm
@chai2,
I'm a stickler for grammar and spelling. I sometimes run out of time when I'm editing a post so I repost the post with the corrections intact. Does that bother you?
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 10:09 pm
@izzythepush,
Does "bloody" in British English mean "effing"? An American friend told me this years ago.

I know it's used as an intensifier like "very".
chai2
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 10:22 pm
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

I'm a stickler for grammar and spelling. I sometimes run out of time when I'm editing a post so I repost the post with the corrections intact. Does that bother you?


It bothers everyone.

You repost it for no ones benefit. It’s incredibly annoying.

Especially now that you say you do it because of some grammar error and not even something to do with content.

If you make an error, let it go.
cherrie
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 10:26 pm
@JGoldman10,
No. Effing means *******.

So you shouldn't be saying it.
cherrie
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 10:27 pm
@chai2,
I agree. It annoys the **** out of me when he does this.
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