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Chris Hayes on Trump admin. forcing out top vaccine doctor amid pandemic.

 
 
Reply Wed 22 Apr, 2020 09:16 pm
Chris Hayes on Trump admin. forcing out top vaccine doctor amid pandemic.

Top vaccine doctor Rick Bright was sidelined because he pushed back against the President's constant shilling
for an untested malaria drug as the “magical” cure for coronavirus. Chris Hayes says on the corruption scale from 1 to 10,
this is an 11.


Aired on 04/22/2020.


 
Real Music
 
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Reply Wed 22 Apr, 2020 09:23 pm
Vaccine doctor in fight against COVID is like 'pulling Brady in the 4th quarter'


Obama official Andy Slavitt on the Trump admin. ousting top vaccine doctor Rick Bright
in the middle of a pandemic without a vaccine: "This is like is like the Patriots pulling Tom Brady
in the 4th quarter with the team down by 6."


Aired on 04/22/2020.


McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 22 Apr, 2020 10:10 pm
Chris Hayes... for fucks sake. How can you watch that garbage?
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Wed 22 Apr, 2020 10:41 pm
@Real Music,
I heard Slavitt on the Chris Cuomo program earlier. He made some valid points.
Bottom line is that Bright had to have known he was going to be in the path of the swinging axe when he voiced an opinion in complete opposition of Trump. As has been shown, agree with the President and life is good, disagree with the president and things might be difficult, possible job loss depending on his mood and the comments from his flappy advisors. Go all out against him and it's over. A group of security people will escort you off the premises immediately!
RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 23 Apr, 2020 12:47 am
@Sturgis,
Whose word are you going to take? A known famous doctor who is an Md, or a lying sack of shyt like our president?
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 23 Apr, 2020 01:50 am
An accusation is made against Trump by people who hate him. Upon investigation, it turns out to be a misstatement of the facts. and then, with no apology, the next false accusation is made. What else is new?

It's undoubtedly just like the time that Trump was accused of calling Mexicans animals, but the film clip that was shown was edited so that you couldn't tell that he had been asked about the criminal Central American gang MS-13. I don't have to look into the details of this one to know that it's more of the same.

Yawn. Tens of millions of Americans like him and will vote for him.
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hightor
 
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Reply Thu 23 Apr, 2020 03:31 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
Upon investigation, it turns out to be a misstatement of the facts. and then, with no apology, the next false accusation is made.

Get back to us later and let us know what facts have been "misstated", okay?

McGentrix wrote:
Chris Hayes... for fucks sake. How can you watch that garbage?

Do you have specific objections to any of the points that were raised or are you just parading your "librul media=bad" formula? It's amusing watching the circuit breakers tripping in your brain as your bias works desperately to deny any facts that might lead you to question it!
McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 23 Apr, 2020 06:25 am
@hightor,
I watched the video above and got at least 30 seconds in before Chris Hayes proved himself to be a biased dick.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 23 Apr, 2020 07:11 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:
Upon investigation, it turns out to be a misstatement of the facts. and then, with no apology, the next false accusation is made.

Get back to us later and let us know what facts have been "misstated", okay?

Well the contention seems to be that this is Trump's revenge but:

TRUMP: Well, I never heard of him. If the guy says he was pushed out of the job, maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. You'd have to hear the other side. I don't know who he is.

From: http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2004/22/cnnt.01.html
hightor
 
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Reply Thu 23 Apr, 2020 07:41 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
...proved himself to be a biased dick...

How? You've simply made an accusation. A person can be biased but that doesn't mean he's wrong. I'm asking for a refutation. Show where he's wrong or how his "bias" obscures the truth. Simply labeling him a "biased dick" is juvenile — can you back it up?
hightor
 
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Reply Thu 23 Apr, 2020 07:47 am
@Brandon9000,
Quote:

Well the contention seems to be that this is Trump's revenge but...

Thanks for making an effort. The trouble is that Trump routinely uses this ploy — "Never heard of the guy!" — and then he's shown shaking his hand or playing golf with him.
Lemon wrote:
LEMON: Never heard of him. Don't know who he is. Nothing to see here. Never heard of the official who questioned the unproven drug the president has been touting. But wait a minute. The president said he never heard of the guy who was heading up the search for a vaccine, the guy looking for the only thing that can end this nightmare pandemic? Wouldn't you expect the president to have some idea who that person is? I mean, at least some idea. But all this sounds a lot like what the president said last night when he claimed not to know anything about the study that found the drug not only had no benefit. It increased death.


But I'll agree with Trump here — let's hear more from the "other side".
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 06:22 am
@hightor,
You actually have no idea whether Trump had anything to do with it or not. Be hopeful, though, he might have. And if he didn't, well there are always other things he might have done wrong, or incidents that look bad if you leave out or change a few facts. Keep hoping.
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 07:23 am
@Brandon9000,
The great thing about Trump is that you don't have to leave out or change any facts! No need to hope, either, just calmly observe — the guy blurts out some new atrocity nearly every day. In response to his latest suggestions, I've started gargling with Lysol and laying under a sunlamp just in case I'm infected.

Quote:
Donald Trump likes to say that he fell into politics almost by accident, and on Friday, as he sought to calm a nation gripped with fears over coronavirus, he suggested he would have thrived in another profession – medical expert.

“I like this stuff. I really get it,” Mr Trump boasted to reporters during a tour of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and Prevention in Atlanta, where he met with actual doctors and scientists who are feverishly scrambling to contain and combat the deadly illness.

Citing a “great, super-genius uncle” who taught at MIT, Mr Trump professed it must run in the family genes.

“People are really surprised I understand this stuff,” he said. “Every one of these doctors said: ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability.”

independent
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revelette3
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 08:54 am
@Sturgis,
Sometimes the longer our prez is in charge of us, I feel as though we are headed towards being N.Korea or some such autocratic country.
revelette3
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 08:57 am
@hightor,
Quote:
How? You've simply made an accusation. A person can be biased but that doesn't mean he's wrong. I'm asking for a refutation. Show where he's wrong or how his "bias" obscures the truth. Simply labeling him a "biased dick" is juvenile — can you back it up?


Ha. I will wait for developments.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 04:43 pm
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:
Sometimes the longer our prez is in charge of us, I feel as though we are headed towards being N.Korea or some such autocratic country.

Trump has been president for over three years now. Has he:

1. Attempted to suspend elections
2. Attempted to dissolve congress or use force to make them vote his way
3. Stopped or tried to stop by power of law the press from publishing stories he doesn't like
4. Had people arrested for things which are not crimes enacted by an elected legislature?

These are the actions of an autocrat which come to mind. And, in answering, please don't point to times when Trump has merely expressed an opinion. Everyone has the right to an opinion and stating one does not make one an autocrat.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 06:16 pm
@Brandon9000,
These are fascist state things ."Plutocratic Populism" is gradually tuning us into a fascist.
1. Hes mtioned delaying or suspending elections as an excuse based upon the pandemic
2. Hes ignored the Constitutionally mandated powers of the Congress (with help from the enabler-in-chief-Moscow Mitch)
3.Hes gradually trying to dismbowel the" free" press so his flunkies can have an instant enemy to hate (one of the earmarks of fascism is basing your state on dealing with silent enemies in his case its
(press, Islam, Mexicans, the Intelligence Community, SCience, "The Deep State")
4. You dont start arresting immdiately, when you create enemies "o the state" you gradually create a list of the usual suspects.

Fascism generally grows from illegal and evil acts from within. Boy this guy is type section for all that.
(Besides being the worlds biggest liar)
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 06:48 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
These are fascist state things ."Plutocratic Populism" is gradually tuning us into a fascist.
1. Hes mtioned delaying or suspending elections as an excuse based upon the pandemic
2. Hes ignored the Constitutionally mandated powers of the Congress (with help from the enabler-in-chief-Moscow Mitch)
3.Hes gradually trying to dismbowel the" free" press so his flunkies can have an instant enemy to hate (one of the earmarks of fascism is basing your state on dealing with silent enemies in his case its
(press, Islam, Mexicans, the Intelligence Community, SCience, "The Deep State")
4. You dont start arresting immdiately, when you create enemies "o the state" you gradually create a list of the usual suspects.

Fascism generally grows from illegal and evil acts from within. Boy this guy is type section for all that.
(Besides being the worlds biggest liar)

Apparently, you cannot follow the simplest instructions. I said that I don't give a **** about some opinion he expressed. I am asking for an example of something he has actually done. You are famous for fleeing arguments when you start to lose, so I don't expect much, but give me one specific example of something from my list that he has actually done.

Also, just out of curiosity, when did he even opine about suspending elections? I have no recollection of seeing that.
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 07:21 pm
Reuters calls this a Partly false claim: Trump fired entire pandemic response team in 2018

Quote:
“Its mission was the same as when I was asked to lead the office, established after the Ebola epidemic of 2014: to do everything possible within the vast powers and resources of the U.S. government to prepare for the next disease outbreak and prevent it from becoming an epidemic or pandemic. One year later, I was mystified when the White House dissolved the office, leaving the country less prepared for pandemics like covid-19”


Comment in The Washington Post by Beth Cameron, former Senior Director for Global Health Security and Biodefense in the NSC (National Security Council).

Quote:
CONCLUSIONS
There is disagreement over how to describe the changes at the NSC’s Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense in 2018. The departure of some members due to “streamlining” efforts under John Bolton is documented. The “pandemic response team” as a unit was largely disbanded.

VERDICT
Partly false: The Trump administration disbanded the “pandemic response” team, but some of the team members were reassigned to roles that included pandemic response

This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact checking work here .


The Reuters article is worth a read--not that I expect them to bother.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 07:34 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

I watched the video above and got at least 30 seconds in before Chris Hayes proved himself to be a biased dick.


You seem to have Daddy issues.....you know you don't have to hate people for Trump to love you..don't you? Just tell him he looks pretty when he smiles, and strongly strong when he folds all of his chins into a fierce frown face.
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