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How to learn English well?Does Singing English songs useful?

 
 
englishdavis
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jun, 2005 10:58 pm
Hello diagknowz,I come from ShenZhen China,I'm a international freight forwarder.It's not necessary to say sorry here,maybe the words like "sorry"shouldn't exist at all.

I meet new questions from your post reply,such as the words below:

I was half asleep bec.The word in red can't be found in the dictionary,and the same time I got a new expressing phrase:I'm half asleep. Very Happy

if you find typos here.Do you mean that if read the reply post here today?Then I could tell you that I will be here everyday except sundays.


so my "touch" typing is really getting a workout! Do you mean that you typed words without glasses,so maybe it's just a way to test your typing?



In fact that there are many children here in impoverished regions don't have the chance to go to school,but not have the phenomenon in the city like ShenZhen,Shanghai,xiamen,ningbo,etc.The difference between the poor and the rich is large.

In common,there are twelve years of school are compulsory.

Just like three different school levels in Europe,there are:elementary school,middle schooland high school.

Maybe it's easy to flunk here,about thirty percents of students would be flunked by the exam of entering college.

Education is not a joke here,it's elevated here.Or it could be described like this:If anyone in school don't study energetically,then he or she won't have a good future in his or her life.

Kind regards

Yours Davis

Have a nice weekend.
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diagknowz
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 05:29 pm
Hiya, Davis!

"Bec." is short-hand 4 "because" (sometimes people also spell it "cuz")---but you can only get away with something like that in a forum or a personal email/letter, never in anything official or formal. :wink:

"if you find typos here"--- a typo is a typing error.

"touch typing" is typing not by sight (that is, you don't look at the keys), but by practised head-knowledge of the keys.

If anyone in school don't study energetically,then he or she won't have a good future in his or her life. Hmmmnn, that almost sounds like Europe, although there, if you apprentice, you can do all right, too. In the U.S., some of the least educated people can still make a mint and live high on the hog. (I guess that's why it's called "the Land of Opportunity" Smile )
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englishdavis
 
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Reply Sun 26 Jun, 2005 07:21 pm
Englishdavis
the Land of Opportunity?I still don't understand clearly.


make a mint ?Does it means that earn money?


live high on the hog?Still lazy?


The competition is very drastic here in China,such as ShenZhen,ShangHai,NingBo,etc.But only a few opportunities in small cities far away the Southern Of China.

So,I have to learn more to get a better future.

Sincerely Yours :wink:
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diagknowz
 
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Reply Sun 26 Jun, 2005 10:00 pm
"Land of Opportunity" is the common term for the U.S. It means it's a place where the sky's the limit (i.e. you can pursue your interests and seek your "rainbow" and probably achieve your goals---at least, more readily than in the 3rd World).

Yup, "make a mint" means to make a lot of $$$$.

"live high on the hog" means living the life of the rich.
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englishdavis
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2005 02:03 am
Hope you could make a mint everyday,diagknowz.
A useful phrase.
Yesterday I spent a lot of time to get my part of forum into English.So that many people could register easily who speak native English.
I wanna you have a try,whether you could register easily on www.7davis.com/bbs

Hope you could give me a lot of advises on the idea,yours Davis.
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diagknowz
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2005 03:13 pm
YIKES, Davis, that site is scary! I wasn't sure WHERE exactly to register, bec. all those spiky Chinese characters looked like heavily armed sentries, ready to spear my English typing! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

As for my making a mint, thanx for the good wishes, but a retired pedagogue'll never make a mint (barring winning the lottery :wink: ).
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BorisKitten
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jun, 2005 11:25 am
Hi Englishdavis! I'm happy to hear you are learning English, I think it will help you a lot in your future.

Please tell us more about where you live. I would love to learn all about your life.

I live in the US, in Florida, where I've lived since childhood.

It is very hot and damp here this time of year. There are many frogs in our pond, singing at night. It's beautiful.

I work at a Women's Shelter 2 days a week, 12 hours per shift. I like it a lot. The other days, I play with my cats and dogs, do needlework, read a lot, and post on A2K.

I hope we can help you practice your English! I admire you for your willingness to learn.
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seagull
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2005 03:50 am
hi, first, I want to say hello to everyone! I'm a Chinese too, and I'm a girl who comes from LuoYang China. I can understand what Englishdavis said, because my English is poor like him, Smile

to be honest, I love here, but don't post often, because it is difficult for me to express what I want to say.Smile hope you all can understand what I mean.
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seagull
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2005 04:00 am
hello Davis, I just read the post, I think "a pair of turtle doves" means "一对斑鸠", turtle dove is a phrase, 我想你可以装个金山词霸,我现在就用那个,感觉还不错!

touch typing 我想就是"盲打"吧!
live high 过奢侈的生活!

I think your English is better than me, hope we can make progress!

Best regards,
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seagull
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2005 04:03 am
is the time shown world standard time at Greenwich Mean Time? because it's Fri Jul 01, 2005 18:04 here.
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sailang
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 10:18 am
hi everybody, i'm new here and i'm from Malaysia. I'm a chinese too!! I'm here to learn english of course. I'm a student actually and i'm going to further my studies in the US Exclamation I'm worrying actually. My english is poor.... and i need some time to think when i speak even when i write. I heard people saying that once you in US, you will learn to speak and you will be able to speak fluently. Is that right? How about the native college students? Are they friendly? will they willing to talk to me and be my friend? I'm kinda of affraid to be there. Hope to get some advise from you all. Nice to meet you all here.. have a nice day.
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Valpower
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 12:43 pm
sailang wrote:
hi everybody, i'm new here and i'm from Malaysia. I'm a chinese too!! I'm here to learn english of course. I'm a student actually and i'm going to further my studies in the US Exclamation I'm worrying actually. My english is poor.... and i need some time to think when i speak even when i write. I heard people saying that once you in US, you will learn to speak and you will be able to speak fluently. Is that right?


Welcome to A2K, Sailang. To me, speaking a foreign language fluently is achieved when you no longer speak by translating from your native language; in essence, when you begin to think in that foreign language. When you immerse yourself in another language and remove yourself from your own, you would be surprised by how quickly it happens. I recall a particular moment in my study of Spanish; I had been in the Dominican Republic for a month--immersed in Spanish--when, one day, I was running and tripped on a wire sticking out of the ground. As I felt myself falling, I realized I was going to take a tumble onto a pile of rocks. Without thinking, I shouted out a very obscene curse word in Spanish. As I picked myself up from the ground, I was very aware of what had just happened. I was thinking in Spanish! While I was ashamed that others around me had heard the curse word, I was delighted to realize that I had become a Spanish speaker.

I have always recommended to students of foreign language that, once they have acquired a basic vocabulary, it is helpful to begin looking up the meaning of new words in the language they are studying rather than their own. In the beginning, it seems absolutely necessary to translate and it is a good way to build your vocabulary quickly. Later, though, it will become a hindrance. While you will continue to build vocabulary, it will come at the expense of learning native usage patterns. You will be able to communicate better, but no matter how large your vocabulary, you will still sound Chinese.

sailang wrote:
How about the native college students? Are they friendly? will they willing to talk to me and be my friend? I'm kinda of affraid to be there. Hope to get some advise from you all. Nice to meet you all here.. have a nice day.


Depending on where you go, you will find the United States to be quite culturally and ethnically diverse. This has a number of consequences. While my attempt to learn Chinese was met with amusement and astonishment in China (and, therefore, with an endless willingness to help) you will find no such reaction here. There are so many people who are non-native speakers that few people will volunteer to help you. In addition, with diversity comes the potential for disagreement. Here, you will find many people who identify themselves as part of a group based on any of the qualities that distinguish one culture from another, such as wealth, language, physical appearance, religious beliefs, and intellect. In college, especially, students are beginning to define their place in society through these qualities, sometimes without regard to their actual value. In many of these groups, you will find a reluctance to accept those who don't possess the same qualities.

That said, though, it will not be difficult for you to meet friendly people. Because of the diversity, many people will share your qualities and many of those who don't will be willing to expose themselves to something different. Be confident in the idea that you have something to offer and know what it is. If you come here only with the idea of receiving something, it will be difficult to form relationships. If you seek exchange, you will have no problems. I am confident that you will learn English, make friends, and learn to fear nothing. Good luck.
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sailang
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2005 09:39 am
wao.. sounds interesting. I will be enrolling to Ohlone College which is in California. Sigh... I took almost 10 minutes to think on what i wanted to continue on this post. Do you know that who is the A2K founder? Is he/she is a american? Where are you from, Valpower? Where do you live? What is your job? I really appreciate what you have told me. Thank you. I will learn to talk in English... i hope. Thanks for the advise! Looking forward to hear from you soon. And do teach me more! thanks!
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Valpower
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2005 12:21 pm
Please make note of some corrections I made to your post:

sailang wrote:
Wow...sounds interesting. I will be enrolling at Ohlone College, which is in California. Sigh... It took almost 10 minutes to think about how I wanted to continue this post. Do you know who the founder ofA2K is? Is he/she an American? Where are you from, Valpower? Where do you live? What is your job? I really appreciate what you have told me. Thank you. I will learn to talk in English...I hope. Thanks for the advice! Looking forward to hearing from you soon. And do teach me more! Thanks!


Sailang, don't worry too much about it taking you 10 minutes to think of something to write. However, if you get stuck, it can be very useful (in speaking and writing) to try to paraphrase, repeat, or contradict what someone has just said.

"So, you think I will learn English and make friends easily?"
"I agree that if you seek exchange, you will have no problems."
"I don't think I will ever learn to fear nothing."

In general, these forms of repetition help to assure the native speaker that you have understood and increases your comfort level with your new language. In speech, merely repeating is useful for improving your accent, pronunciation, and retention. When writing, make sure that you repeat it from your own memory (no copying and pasting).

As for your questions:
I'm not sure who the founder of A2K is. I am originally from Chicago, Illinois but now live in Los Angeles, California. My job is computer programming.
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sailang
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2005 10:12 am
Hi there!! Just here to say thank you~~! Ur advise is highly appreciated! i will learn some english by going through the forum~~! anyway.. just to say thank you and nice to receive from your post. If i found any problems in understanding and speaking in english during my start in CA.. i will need your advise again.. thanks alot!
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