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Sen. Robert Byrd: 'Today I Weep for My Country'

 
 
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 01:32 pm
This pissing match is so boring
The pissing match engaged in here is soooo boring---and off the subject of my original post. Please respect my post subject and take your infantile squabble elsewhere.

BumbleBeeBoogie
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 03:09 pm
I reaffirm what I said earlier.

Allthough I have had problems warming up to Senator Byrd in the past, his comments at this point in time are right on the money -- and delivered despite the political costs in his home state -- a conservative bastion.

My hat it off to him.

I only with the rest of the congress had ended their silence and spoken up for the right of the legislature to declare war -- not the president.

I think the framers were right in setting things up that way. The congress will always be an amalgam of many disciplines and philosophies -- while the president is a single person whose judgement may at times not be especially brilliant.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 07:31 pm
frank

I agree wholeheartedly. What I found so depressing was that his voice stood in such contrast to the blandness around.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2003 11:09 am
*****
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2003 06:40 pm
hey Jimbo.

Nice guilt by association in your remark there, and yours is the typical right wing bull$hit attempt at distortion and deceit by implying that those with whom you disagree are not informed, nor are allowed to have an opinion if it differs from your own without questioning their motives.

I shall let pass without comment that what you read and obviously believe in from the corporate controlled media is intended to manufacture consent for dishonest policies, which serve only a few people and not the majority, and probably do not even benefit you. Such is the success of brain washing by the corporate media.

I suggest you retune your bull$hit antenna so as not to be so duped.

You say that Byrd's flirt with the KKK over 50 years ago is germane? And further, worse than Trent Lott, in 2002, saying that a man who ran for president, as an ardent segregationist in 1948 should have been president, and that the country would be a better place today if he had?. Had Lott said that at the same time Byrd was a member of KKK, viz., in 1948, perhaps you would be right, that the two are equally repugnant, but Lott praised Thurmond's past segregationist presidential campaign in the year 2002. So your remark lacks, well, a certain objective reality to it. And I can only comment that you are wrong to even compare the two situations.

And Byrd was referring to "white niggers" not African Americans. Even a person with a rudimentary background of semantics would understand that by using the qualifying adjective of "white" to define the word nigger, shows that the noun, as used by Byrd was race neutral.

As to media bias, there was little mention in the press about Bush speaking at Bob Jones University in the spring of 2000 the head of which advocates racial segregation and attacks Catholics as devil worshippers. But I assume that is okay by you, since you did not mention it.

Actually, I thought that my comment on your half name was kind of' funny, and on target, considering the paucity of informed opinion in your posts, but that is the comedian in me, not the progressive, and it appears in reflection, that even in that I was too kind.

As to backing up that Bush's lies? That is simply too easy to document and prove, as are examples in his public and private life that he is a bully.

http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm

http://www.socialistworker.org/2002-1/409/409_06_WhatTheyWontSay.shtml

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0601-01.htm

As to Bush being a coward, I was referring to Bush's documented AWOL and bugging out on his TANG service and his removal from flight duties for not showing up for duty, a duty which had any other man deserted would have led to that man being immediately shipped off to Viet Nam. But not Bush. Instead, he stayed home while others served in the Nam, like my own uncle who came home in a box. So don't even attempt to chest thump about patriotism with me, my family paid the ultimate sacrifice while Bush played, impregnated women, and snorted drugs.

www.awolbush.com/

http://www.cis.net/~coldfeet/

http://awol.gq.nu/AWOL_Globe%20series.htm

www.kings.edu/twsawyer/awol/awol-bush.html

www.atomicmule.com/news/news77d.html


I consider Bush a traitor for not doing what he should have from the day he became president to defend this country from attacks. The first week he was in office, he was given the report on terrorism and how to counter it by the commission headed by Gary Hart and Wayne Rudman (a Republican). It described what could happen, even mentioning the use of jets as suicide missiles, the report listed dozens of precautions that needed to be implemented immediately. All Bush did was say he would consider it, then hand it to Cheney and did nothing.

You are of course aware that the 2002 budget that Bush sent to the Congress on September 10, 2002 included a SIXTY MILLION DOLLAR FUKKING REDUCTION, REDFUCTION mind you, in funding to fight terrorismÂ… but you don't hear about that on the faux news network, did you? As it would be unseemly to point a finger at the man responsible for the worst attack on the country.

Yet you want to blame Clinton?

Sorry, but that dog wont hunt. Bush dismantled the programs Clinton had in place for getting bin laden whenever he popped his head up, and Bush did it the very first week he came into office. That cancelled program included cruise missile launches, bomber missions, and stand by Special Forces on-ship in the Persian Gulf to kill bin laden. Bush canceled this. WHY? Because anything Clinton did was tainted by sperm?

So, Bush proposes to reduce funding to fight terrorism by SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS, (so he can help his tax cut for the rich), removes 44 of the 46 agents in the US intelligence community assigned to capture or kill bin laden, refuses to take any action strongly recommended by a BI-PARTISAN government study to reduce the risk of terrorist attack on US soil, and yet you consider him to have done a good job? UNBELIEVABLE!

Your further ignorance of the facts is that when Clinton sent cruise missiles after bin laden and missed him by minutes in 1998, all the Republicans did was shout about Clinton wagging the dog instead of supporting Clinton's attempt to kill bin laden. Look it up, its right here.

Bush Warned of Bin Laden - Did Less Than Clinton
http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/repubnews/bushwarned.htm
Republicans Watered Down 1996 Clinton
Anti-Terrorism Bill, Thanks to Lott & Hatch
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/News/clintonbill.html
Bill O'Reilly Blames Clinton For Terrorist Attacks
Read This For The Truth
http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/News/oreillylies.htm
US Agents Told: Back Off The Bin Ladens After Bush Became President
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/News/bushreport.html
Bush Waited 10 Months to Freeze Terrorist Assets
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/News/freeze.html
Conservatives Sound Refrain: It's Clinton's Fault
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/News/clintonfault.html
Clinton Had Plans For Getting Bin Laden
Also Trained Commandos For Ground Action
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/News/clinton1.html
George Bush Sr. Ignored 1990 Report on Terrorism
George Bush Jr. Ignored 2001 Report on Terrorism
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/News/ignored.html
Bush Administration & The Media Ignored
1-31-01 Hart/Rudman Report on Terrorism
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/News/rhreport.html
Terrorist Attack Wake-Up Call For The
Media And The Bush Administration
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/News/attack.html


And I too lost a friend at the WTC, and right now my younger brother is in Kuwait, with the US Air Force. So, even liberals serve, as I did with the Army Corps of Engineers 28 years ago.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2003 06:53 pm
Hear hear. That's one of the finest pieces I have read in quite some time, kuvasz.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2003 08:49 am
Go Kuvasz!
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