I'm scared to die.. is that bad?

@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Life was never meant to be "permanent."

From that, I dissent.

David

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@JLNobody,

JLNobody wrote:

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To repeat myself, yes, David, there is no "death" insofar as once I die
there there is no "me" to be in a state of death.

That is false.

JLNobody wrote:

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But then again there is, strictly speaking,
no "me" now, but that's another topic.

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@helplessteen,

Helplessteen:

U might find this thread 's posts helpful,
to calm your mind, in answer to your question:
http://able2know.org/topic/135770-3#post-3746309

Particularly, page 3

David

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"I'm scared to die..is that bad?

I agree with some here who say you are allowing your mind to obsess. You can become obsessed with thoughts of dying, if you want, or you can choose to stop obsessing about this idea of dying. The past is gone, the future does not exist...so, what you have is right now. What are you going to do with NOW? Nothing? We are not allowed to just become static! Make a move, take action. Probably, get some help, to get you moving any way at all, hopefully forward. Find a counselor. Good luck to you.

Certainly, obsessing is not "bad." It's just not intelligent, and we are all intelligent beings. Stop wasting yourself. And, you certainly are not unique. We all die little deaths now and then from loss of a loved one , loss of a job. So, grab onto the next thing for you to do. You are a child of the universe and have an important purpose. Right now, it's to get your mind working with thoughts of your future.

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@Pemerson,

Pemerson, I agree. We die little deaths throughout our lives,when we lose pets, friends, parents, property, even limbs and abilities (e.g.I can no longer sprint)--if you see the pain of death as the pain of loss.
Frankly, I have obsessed about death, spending years overcoming the fear of it. I consider that necessary to the enjoyment of life. Trying to hide from the fear with fantasies about an immortal afterlife, will not do, any more than does any neurotic repression.

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If our consciousnesses can separate from our human bodies
while those human bodies remain in good health,
then its not much of a stretch to accept that the same
consciousness that left earlier will leave again
after the human body becomes dysfunctional.

www.IANDS.org

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

David, we've gone over this before, so I'll only say briefly that I cannot imagine mental activity, mind, consciousness, experience without a functioning brain. Indeed, mind-ing is a manifestation of brain-ing--even though "brain", as a thought, is a function of mind.
Yin and yang.

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@JLNobody,

JLNobody wrote:

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David, we've gone over this before,

Forgive the failing memory of age, if u will.

JLNobody wrote:

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so I'll only say briefly that I cannot imagine mental activity, mind,
consciousness, experience without a functioning brain.

I 'll accept your word, as to what u cannot imagine.

JLNobody wrote:

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Indeed, mind-ing is a manifestation of brain-ing--even though "brain",
as a thought, is a function of mind. Yin and yang.

From my own experience,
and from the experiences of people whom I have met,
some of whom have returned from death
(defined as no EKG, no EEG, nor respiration for a while),
I deny that the mind is dependent upon the brain.

David

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David, I was referring in general to the many threads in which I, Fresco, and others have treated this matter.
Your claim regarding consciousness sans brain or life is science fiction.

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@JLNobody,

JLNobody wrote:

David, I was referring in general to the many threads in which I, Fresco, and others have treated this matter.
Your claim regarding consciousness sans brain or life is science fiction.

Without offending u, and with all respect,
may I inquire as to whether u have an emotional investment
in death of the human body also being the cessation of consciousness ?

In other words:
if it were demonstrated sufficiently to convince u
that your belief in this regard is in error,
woud u be saddened or disappointed ?

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i'm in no great hurry to die

but

i hope there's such things as ghosts

i can't wait to be ghost

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@djjd62,

djjd62 wrote:

i'm in no great hurry to die

but

i hope there's such things as ghosts

i can't wait to be ghost

I 've kind of already done it a few times (sort of).
My conscious perception was remote from my body
a few times. Unfortunately, thay did not last long.

It was fun.

The last time was in 1991.
I like it when that happens.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

i just want to haunt folks

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@OmSigDAVID,

JLNobody wrote:
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To repeat myself, yes, David, there is no "death" insofar as once I die
there there is no "me" to be in a state of death.
David wrote:

That is false.

Dys writes, ROFLMAO

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@dyslexia,

dyslexia wrote:

JLNobody wrote:
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To repeat myself, yes, David, there is no "death" insofar as once I die
there there is no "me" to be in a state of death.
David wrote:

That is false.

Dys writes, ROFLMAO

We are always happy to keep u chuckling, Dys.

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While I do not believe in ghosts (only in the possibility of states of mine that feel like one is a ghost), I do believe in Dys, but only because I've seen him (that was before his ascension, of course).
To me the ideal would be to be able to die when I want to, not before or after. I certainly would not want immortality such that I would be here after the extinction of my species or the Cosmos has ended. Imagine surviving after being drawn into a black hole. I want to end when my world ends (that can be my subjecitve or my objective world).

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@djjd62,

I like your thinking. LOL

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Who knows where or what we were before this life today? So, while we are alive, we should live,and love living. At times, that's tough to do but, hopefully, everyone has good memories to replace thoughts such as fear of dying.

So, dddj2 (sorry, can't get back to check out your I.D) you think you'll have fun after you're dead... haunting people. Gads, who deserves that?

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@Pemerson,

Oh, there are several people on a2k I would love to scare their pants off!

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I 've never seen a ghost (except for myself),
but it might be fun to interview one.

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