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I'm scared to die.. is that bad?

 
 
skeptical
 
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Reply Sat 24 Mar, 2007 09:13 am
I figure, when I die, I die. Heck, the best part of death in my opinion (I'm no suicidal maniac) is that I'll disscover the truth about all this religious crap that everyone makes such a fuss about. I won't be able to tell anyone whether they're right or wrong by then... ^_^ but, hey least I'll know.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 24 Mar, 2007 12:43 pm
Skeptical, what will you know when you're are no longer? No knower, no knowledge.

BTW, someone once said that dying is the easiest thing to do: you just lie there.
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skeptical
 
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Reply Sat 24 Mar, 2007 01:10 pm
Hey, if when I die there are no religious mysteries to have been disscovered after all, and I really just, stop existing, guess I won't care if I've recieved any new knowledge or not, eh JLNobody?
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 24 Mar, 2007 02:13 pm
Exactly, you'll be just like before you were conceived/born--no problem.
Like I'm fond of noting. We worry so much about the nature of the "afterlife" but give no thought to the "beforebirth". They are the same. If you can the first "death" why not use the same term for the first and worry about it too?
We don't worry about "beforebirth" because there was no us to be dead. The same applies to "afterbirth."
Does that help at all?
lilybawn
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 12:14 am
i worry all the time i cant stop i worry so much my body is aching,to the person that fears death for hours you have an obsesstion and you must see a person that deals with curing obsesstion,i know what your going through and my heart goes out to you,i hope you get better god bless.
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aidan
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 01:05 am
@JLNobody,
Quote:
Exactly, you'll be just like before you were conceived/born--no problem.
Like I'm fond of noting. We worry so much about the nature of the "afterlife" but give no thought to the "beforebirth". They are the same. If you can the first "death" why not use the same term for the first and worry about it too?
We don't worry about "beforebirth" because there was no us to be dead. The same applies to "afterbirth."
Does that help at all?

Yes, I have a friend who says, 'I've already been dead and for a very, very long time- and it never seemed to bother me.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 01:08 am
@helplessteen,

People who have returned from death
(defined as flat lines on EKG, EEG and on respiration, for a while)
in hospitals have expressed sadness or resentment at coming back
to human life, and have told us of presently having absolutely no fear of "death".

Thay know that "death" does not really exist.


www.IANDS.org





David
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 10:33 am
@OmSigDAVID,
To repeat myself, yes, David, there is no "death" insofar as once I die there there is no "me" to be in a state of death.
But then again there is, strictly speaking, no "me" now, but that's another topic.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 11:07 am
@JLNobody,
Yeah, JLN, let's not go there. LOL
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Chumly
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 12:14 pm
Life is a belief, death is the reality!
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 12:19 pm
@Chumly,
To me they are both beliefs--conceptual constructions.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 12:19 pm
@JLNobody,
Very limited ones at that!
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Chumly
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 12:20 pm
@JLNobody,
Death would appear to have substantively more permanence.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 12:22 pm
@Chumly,
Life was never meant to be "permanent."
Chumly
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 12:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
To suggest life has intent is to agrue against evolution and for belief.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 12:27 pm
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:

To me they are both beliefs--conceptual constructions.
Yeah, I BELIEVE the conceptual construction that 8 + 6 = 14.

The fact it is my BELIEF does not prove it false.





David
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Chumly
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 12:32 pm
The time may well come when Man has no definitive lifespan, hence will be (from a practical standpoint) immortal.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 12:32 pm
@Chumly,
Chumly, I'm not sure what you mean. Life is a combination of our genes and our environment. How we believe and live our life is based on those two fundamentals.
Chumly
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 12:36 pm
@cicerone imposter,
No intent means randomization hence evolution not belief.
Again: "To suggest life has intent is to argue against evolution and for belief."
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 12:52 pm
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:
Quote:
Exactly, you'll be just like before you were conceived/born--no problem.
Yes.



JLNobody wrote:
Quote:
Like I'm fond of noting. We worry so much about the nature of the "afterlife"
but give no thought to the "beforebirth".
They are the same. If you can the first "death" why not use
the same term for the first and worry about it too?

Thay are the same; yes.
There is no death; it is fake.
As I have noted hereinabove, people who remember returning
from "death" have no fear of any further future death.

The real me that existed b4 I was conceived
and which exists now (occasionally leaving my human body)
will continue on unaffected by molting off the outer covering
when it wears out. People (plural, multiple) who remember their "deaths" as babies,
upon return have described themselves as being full adults until thay got back into their human bodies again.

This has been true of the descriptions of children
during the first several years of their Earthly lives.
Their accounts co-incided with one another,
tho thay never met, being widely separated in space and in time.



JLNobody wrote:
Quote:
We don't worry about "beforebirth" because there was no us to be dead.
The same applies to "afterbirth."
Does that help at all?
It does not. Its premise is false.

In the (approximate) words of Deepak Chopra, M.D.:
we think that we are human beings with occasional spiritual experiences,
but we are actually spiritual beings with occasional human experiences.





David
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