I'm scared to die.. is that bad?

@JLNobody,

enlightenment doesn't know what it is.

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@dyslexia,

dyslexia wrote:

enlightenment doesn't know what it is.

How do u know ?

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@OmSigDAVID,

I think Dys is right. If enlightenment knows itself, it is a deluded "knowing". In the mystical sense at least one cannot stand apart from or objectify (i.e., know) experience. One is enlightened perhaps when one is one with experience. Tat tvam asi (that art thou).

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@JLNobody,

All that you have said means nothing to me.

HeHe

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@neologist,

That kind of talk is beyond my understanding too!

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@cicerone imposter,

It's beyond me too.

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@JLNobody,

Well, JLNobody, you really do come up with the last word. Smile

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@Pemerson,

He/She is pretty powerful.

Nobody lives forever!

(He/She will vote me up though, because ... Nobody likes a smart-ass)

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@Eorl,

Eorl wrote:

He/She is pretty powerful.

Nobody lives forever!

(He/She will vote me up though, because ... Nobody likes a smart-ass)

I dissent: I believe that it is a fact that everyone lives forever.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

David, I do agree in a sense: I do not believe that you and I as particular entities live forever, but what we REALLY are--I guess I might call it our mysterious cosmic substance (although this invites a lot of ridicule)--IS forever. It's what we were before the birth and after the death of our particular selves; it is our general Self. Think of general existence, as opposed to specific existences.

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@OmSigDAVID,

David, I do agree in a sense: I do not believe that you and I as particular entities live forever, but what we REALLY are--I guess I might call it our mysterious cosmic substance (although this invites a lot of ridicule)--IS forever. It's what we were before the birth and after the death of our particular selves; it is our general Self. Think of general existence, as opposed to specific existences.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Not able to wrap your mind around the concept of nothingness. . .

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@neologist,

Nothingness is when you die.

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@cicerone imposter,

Funny how you and I so easily agree on that one

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@JLNobody,

JLNobody wrote:

David, I do agree in a sense: I do not believe that you and I as particular entities live forever, but what we REALLY are--I guess I might call it our mysterious cosmic substance (although this invites a lot of ridicule)--IS forever. It's what we were before the birth and after the death of our particular selves; it is our general Self. Think of general existence, as opposed to specific existences.

I have had what I intuit to be my REAL SELF,
my consciousness, separate from its vehicle: my human body.
This happened most of the time while I was working,
actively on-the-job in court, speaking to other people.

This has happened to huge numbers of people,
including those who were believed to have "died" because
their human bodies collapsed and deteriorated.

The problem is in wide-spread confusion between defunct
human bodies and the consciousness that inhabited them,
like a man in a car. When the car wears out, its owner does not cease to exist.
He also existed b4 the car was built.

David

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@neologist,

neologist wrote:

Not able to wrap your mind around the concept of nothingness. . .

I have never addressed that concept.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Understood

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@OmSigDAVID,

I have trouble with the cartesian dualism of a mind within a body. To me the most comfortable conceptualization (and I know that "comfort" is not evidence) is that mind (consciousness) if a function of brain and brain is a product of mind. They are two sides of ONE coin.

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@JLNobody,

JLNobody wrote:

I have trouble with the cartesian dualism of a mind within a body.
To me the most comfortable conceptualization (and I know that "comfort" is not evidence)
is that mind (consciousness) if a function of brain and brain is a product of mind. They are two sides of ONE coin.

I have trouble accepting that, inasmuch as I have experienced the separation of mind
and material body several times, and I like it. I wish thay lasted longer.
I 've met people who 've had such separation during periods of death;
thay have departed and made observations remotely distant from
their defunct bodies which were subsequently verified.
I have not done that.

For reasons that I don 't know, some people have emotional investments
in the (inaccurate) concept of "death" of the human body resulting in nothingness.

David

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@squinney,

hey im 17 and been thinking about death and i stress about it every day and night im scared that there is no god but i still have hope of him i dont want to die and there be nothing there i wish i would stay like i am and get see my parents every day and my girlfriend i just with god would come talk to me and tell me that every thing is going to be fine and then ill live my life with happyness but i just cant get it through my head i hate feeling this way and i feel retared talking to my parents about it because it doesnt even help why does growing up have to be so hard im finally relizeing what life is and what the future will bring like getting my own life

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