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Who Has It Easier, Men or Women?

 
 
Algis Kemezys
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 07:44 am
Well men are hunters and women are gatherers.And that makes a big difference right there.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 08:05 am
spendius wrote:
Shewolfnm:-

I agree with you there providing the prostitute's charter you recommend comes without the slightest tinge of shame.If there was any shame you might become riven with guilt and then you wouldn't be getting what you want because guilt wutherings are harmful.Would you include your passage in a speech at a nice family wedding?It has to be said that it may well prove to be very sound advice to the blushing bride.

Would you be kind enough to provide clarification?


Sure, let me expand..

Would I offer this saying to a blushing bride? I should hope I wouldnt have to. By the time she got married, I would hope that she has learned to be comfortable in her own skin and enjoy her sex. ( meaning being a woman..)
When I say : sexy : I dont mean the act of sex, I mean being comfortable in your own skin. Taking care of yourself. Having sexual confidence, self esteem, strength..
Being sexy is about how you hold yourself, how well spoken you are, how you dress, how you act, how you interact , how you stand, what you do with your life...self.. anything.
A woman who is sexy , and is confident about it, in our society gets alot more out of simple situations then those who are not. NOT MEANING the promise of the ACT of sex has anything to do with it.

Simple example :

On the side of the road, someone breaks down, or.. lets just use a flat tire. Everyone knows how to change a flat tire and helping someone with a flat is no big deal at all.
Someone is on the side of the road with a flat tire and it happens to be a woman. She is sort of overweight, hair pulled back in a bun, bland boring clothes , slumped shoulders , no make up, and just.. basically unnattractive. How long do you think she will stand there?

Now, take a woman who is fairly attractive to the eye. Slender, clean matching clothes, hair done, standing tall, maybe a little bit of jewlery on , clean and waiting on the side of the road just like the other woman.
How long do you think she will be there? Not long.. at least not as long as the other woman.

I am not attacking a womans weight here at all.. please dont read that into my statements.

A person who is attractive to the eye and confident will get the eye contact from other people faster then someone who isnt. In getting this eye contact, she can then express her needs and get assistance. People naturally divert thier eyes from people they do not find attractive. Leaving those who are 'unnattractive' at a disadvantage.
Unfortunatly , in our society, this happens alot.
Being 'sexy' ( as per my defination) raises the chances of people paying attention to you, noticing you, and taking you seriously . It isnt about the promise of sex, so much as it is about making people comfortable with you.
Since our society is appearance driven in alot of ways, a woman who is confident and has a good amount of personal strength and is confident and comfortable in her skin, can take advantage of that more so than men.

Make sence?

In being confident and comfortable in your own skin, there is no shame. You are not promising a sex act, you are simply being sex-y . Grace, poise, strength, and confidence go alot farther then running around saying " Ill screw you for this or that" That isnt being sexy, that is a prostitute.

Would I use that explination at a wedding? Oh yeah.. hands down...
but again.. i would hope that I wouldnt have to. :-)
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 08:09 am
Shewolfnm - I remember seeing a news program where they did such a test, put a woman on the side of the road, dressed differently, overweight, business woman, sexy woman, old woman and pregnant woman.

The pregnant woman was helped quickest in each time and location they tested this in.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 08:13 am
I believe that! When a woman is pregnant, everyone wants to help.
There is something about a woman who is bringing a child into this world that sparks all kinds of wonderful things in other people. :-)
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 08:21 am
sw;-

It is as I thought.Sheer sophistry.
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Synonymph
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 08:41 am
Spendius, would you say sophistry is more of a female tactic or implement than a male one?
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 08:47 am
Syn:-

No.But the style and content are different.It's still hogwash though whatever the styles or contents.
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Synonymph
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 10:28 am
So, are you saying that, in your opinion, what you refer to as sophistry is equally practiced by men and women?
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Gala
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 10:34 am
squinney, i like you, or what little i know of you--but, this is a stupid question. neither sex has it easier-- it's all relative and subjective, therefore the proclamations of having it harder will lead to the complainer sounding like a victim.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 11:22 am
Well in the old days when men could get away with murdering their wives just because she talked back, men were better off. But these days, women can get away with anything and therefore, I can proudly say that women have the upper hand.

Get in line guys and I'll see if I can provide you with the privilege of my good graces. But bow down gracefully, otherwise I will not be amused.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 11:46 am
Syn:-

Yes.It's everywhere.I have a sophistry detector and screening unit right here in my little noggin.Spot it a mile off.It comes with practice.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 11:50 am
Lola:-

Consider me bowed to the ground.Prostrate even before your majestic imperiousness and eager to accomodate your slightest whim.
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extra medium
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 12:51 pm
We all are subject to suffering in its various manifestations.

However, if we must answer this question on a more shallow level: it changes through our lives. Someone once said something along the lines of:

"Let me be a beautiful woman until age 30. From ages 30 - 50 let me be a handsome and wealthy businessman. Age 50+, let me be a military general."

Thats a paraphrase, perhaps some here know the exact quote. I think that has some truth. It may have been said over 100 years ago--today the person might dispense with the military thing and just be wealthy male after age 30 all the way.
Not that I necessarily agree with the above, but its a decent answer to the question posed.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 01:10 pm
Oh - Gala I think this question was made just in fun. Of course it depends on your perspective and you can make an arguement for both - if you read my list of benefits for each sex it should be taken that way just lightly - i.e. who can take seriously first to be saved off a sunken ship. I actually took that from a quote of Gilda Radner's - it went something like this:

I love being a woman - you can cry, wear cute clothes and you are the first to be saved from a sinking ship.

I am sure squinney meant this all in fun.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 01:17 pm
Lola wrote:
Well in the old days when men could get away with murdering their wives just because she talked back, men were better off. But these days, women can get away with anything and therefore, I can proudly say that women have the upper hand.

Get in line guys and I'll see if I can provide you with the privilege of my good graces. But bow down gracefully, otherwise I will not be amused.


Oh Lola Lola, your post has the scent of perfection!
I am at your pedicured feet (again). Very Happy
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extra medium
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 01:26 pm
Lola wrote:
Well in the old days when men could get away with murdering their wives just because she talked back, men were better off. But these days, women can get away with anything and therefore, I can proudly say that women have the upper hand.

Get in line guys and I'll see if I can provide you with the privilege of my good graces. But bow down gracefully, otherwise I will not be amused.


Lola,

I am aware of your entity and your kind. I respect and admire it in a way for what it is, but I will never be near enough to you to bow down.

There is obviously a large swath of types of men your type appears to hypnotize and control. I am immune, having been hardened through long hours in the pits of hell yea even since childhood against just this.

Our types repel like two positive poles of a magnet. When you say bow down, I rise up stronger with more desire for shallow mammalian dominance---the only thing restraining me reasonably is The Watcher in the back of the reptilian brain that says choose the battle wisely and don't expend wasted energy here. Our two types, I think, view each other at a distance, two war hardened battleships in the night on the high seas. Watching, neither really wishing to lob a volley. Its dark and night on the high seas. We pass.

I only bow down to the meek and humble submissive ones. Isn't it odd: the submissive type is the master of this male type-A hard driving personality? Oh yes, she is very much my master. The dominatrix will never have a chance with my type. Odd, no?

(when I say she above, I am speaking of no one in particular. An archetype, as it were)
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Sanctuary
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 01:34 pm
extra medium wrote:

Lola,

I am aware of your entity and your kind. I respect and admire it in a way for what it is, but I will never be near enough to you to bow down.

Our types repel like two positive poles of a magnet. When you say bow down, I rise up stronger with more desire for shallow mammalian dominance.

I only bow down to the meek and humble submissive ones. Isn't it odd: the submissive type is the master of this male type-A hard driving personality? Oh yes, she is very much my master. The dominatrix will never have a chance with my type. Odd, no?

(when I say she above, I am speaking of no one in particular. An archetype, as it were)


It makes perfect sense to me. This is why I am humble, more submissive in my approach to life and any advantages I may have. It's also why I have a big problem with the majority of Feminists that I know of. The type of men I want are not the type of men drawn to that controlling 'I am woman, hear me roar and then claw your eyes out' attitude. Less is more, in my opinion, and if I were a men I too would follow your footsteps of desire. I am not looking to dominate a man merely because me ancestors have earned me the right to vote; but rather to sit with him in comfort and equality. I only wish more women took a less agressive approach to the road of life, if only to make it a more peaceful trip. :wink:
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extra medium
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 01:38 pm
Exactly. Well nearly exactly.

Thank you Sanctuary.

You are a sanctuary indeed.

There have been many sanctuaries in the past. Do you take your namesake from any Sanctuary in particular?
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 01:41 pm
One of the biggest problems of political correctness is that it lacks humor (in both senses of the word humor).

Rolling Eyes
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Sanctuary
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jun, 2005 01:43 pm
Extra Medium:

My 'name' is actually quite humorous when considering it's orgins (a Disney movie); however the meaning is meant to be much more comforting.

In the Disney movie 'The Hunchback of Notre Dame' (and I refer to the Disney version merely because it was the one the idea sparked from), the townspeople (I believe) are chasing Esmeralda the Gypsy. To the best of my memory, someone tells her to run into the church and "cry sanctury," so that they can't harm her.

The idea stuck with me. A single place, a single word, to make one safe and immune to hatred and danger. I try my best to offer a sanctuary of sorts with how I communicate with people, attempting to be as level-headed and open-minded as possible so that they feel safe within our conversations. Of course, that doesn't always work, but it's a great thing to aspire to nonetheless. It seems odd to explain it now Laughing But when I was 10 years old or so, watching the movie, it struct something deep inside of me that realized the significance of having a personal Sanctuary.
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