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You Make Me Sweat

 
 
littlek
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2003 05:42 pm
Well, where the hell are they? We're waaaaiiiiting....
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gezzy
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2003 03:39 am
I'll second that Littlek! Come on people!!!!!
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littlek
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2003 09:06 pm
Most creatures produce pheremones to signal reproductive readiness. Most have ways of smelling those pheremones. We humans don't. New research says that we have the genes, but they're defunct. The culprit may be the development of color vision. Whooda thunkit?

Science Daily
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2003 09:45 pm
Thus making color blindness a survival trait?
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littlek
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2003 09:52 pm
only if the scentsing of pheromones comes with the color blindness.
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CodeBorg
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2003 11:44 pm
So I'm not sure ... what color are we supposed to see when there are pheremones present?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 12:45 am
Listeningggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 10:52 am
Well, shucks, the answer's right there in the article.

Quote:
Our closest relatives on the primate family tree rely on "sexual swelling" and gaudy, colorful patches of skin to signal their reproductive fitness and fertility, Zhang said. In fact, though humans and these apes still carry genes that should create pheromone receptors in our noses, these genes have mutated to the point that they are merely pseudogenes---they don't function any more.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 10:54 am
Quote:
To test their idea, Zhang's team zeroed in on a human gene called TRP2, which makes an ion channel that is unique to the pheromone signaling pathway. They found that in humans and Old World primates, this gene suffered a mutation just over 23 million years ago that rendered it dysfunctional. But because we could use color vision for mating, it didn't hurt us. In turn, the pheromone receptor genes that rely on this ion channel fell into disuse, and in a random fashion, mutated to a dysfunctional state because they haven't experienced any pressure from natural selection. Zhang calls this process "evolutionary deterioration."
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 11:45 am
So I should stop bottling my sweat and rubbing all over my chestnecknipples area before going on dates?
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roger
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 12:56 pm
React to sexual swellings? Okay, I think I get your drift.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 01:08 pm
'T'ain't my drift, and it's something that humans have lost. So here we are, without pheromones and, at the very least by societal conventions, sans swelling. What a sad state to be in.

It's been proposed, by the way, that the reason for the human males fascination with prominent breasts -- and hence, through sexual selection, of the unnecessarily large breats present on the human female -- harkens back to a more simian fascination with swollen pudenda. Apparently there are striking geometrical similarities between cleavage and estrous babboon butt or something.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 01:18 pm
And the fact that boobies are cool.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 02:07 pm
hubba hubba

http://acoserv1.uwaterloo.ca/anthropology/Zeller/OldWorldMonkeys/18%20savanna%20baboon%20female,%20sub_lrg.jpg
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roger
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 02:47 pm
Embarrassed , thought boobies were sexual swellings in this context. My bad.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 06:20 pm
sex
Patiodog, where in the world did you find that photo? And what's the male doing, trying to find it? (or am I being naive)?
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 07:20 pm
Maybe he needs a little Viagra?
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 07:20 pm
Baboon butt, my ass.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 07:28 pm
We are definitely not interested in the apparent similarity between a baboon's butt and your ass, no matter how proud you might be.
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2003 07:31 pm
ptht~
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