US AND THEM: US, UN & Iraq, version 8.0

ican't, All good questions, but a) this administration doesn't allow legal represetation for prisoners, b) we don't know how many have died since their capture, and c) nobody has a "body count" of how many were captured and put into our prisons.

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December 26, 2005
Election Results Suggest Small Role For Sunnis in Security Forces
By RICHARD A. OPPEL Jr.
BAGHDAD, Iraq, Dec. 26 - Partial voting results made public today from the recent parliamentary election suggest that in contrast to the remarkable surge in Sunni Arab participation in the political process, Sunnis still have comparatively little representation in the Iraqi security forces.
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The early voting figures are far from exact and constitute nothing like a census of the security forces. And it is impossible to know whether Sunni Arab soldiers and police officers turned out to vote to the same high degree as the overall Sunni population. A spokesman for the American military command that oversees training of the Iraqi forces also said that while he did not know the security forces' ethnic mix, he believed that there were more Sunni troops than the election data suggested.
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Though heavy election-day turnout won Sunni Arab parties a sizable block of parliamentary seats, the Sunnis have accused the newly ascendant Shiites of widespread electoral fraud and demanded a new election. Sunnis, and some secular Shiites, have threatened to boycott the new government.
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By contrast, while final election results won't be available for another week, Iraqi press reports have estimated that Kurds and Sunni Arabs each received perhaps 20 percent of the overall national vote for seats in the national parliament. The main Shiite political alliance is expected to take slightly less than 50 percent of the seats in parliament.

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"Combatant prisoners" is your claim. Prove it.

Comments: Enemy America
It always amuses me that every Republican assumes that everybody in Guantanamo is guilty. I suppose that fact that 40-50% are innocent is just to painful to contemplate.
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icant, You support this administration's management of this war in Iraq and how they have screwed up most things associated with it - mostly under secrecy and lies perpetrated to the American Public. All we can do is depend on the UN, Doctors without Borders, and the International Red Cross to seek the truth, but people like you disbelieve what they say. You are a lost cause for democracy and the American Way.

icant, You support this administration's management of this war in Iraq and how they have screwed up most things associated with it -
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MEASURABLE PROGRESS
The Bush administration's solution is the seven-step course they specified in 2003. It is the course they have stayed and are staying and have repeatedly declared they will stay. Their solution is to establish a democracy in Iraq secured by the Iraqis themselves. They have completed five of the seven steps in their solution:
(1) Select an initial Iraq government to hold a first election.
(2) Establish and begin training an Iraq self-defense military.
(3) Hold a democratic election of an interim government whose primary function is to write a proposed constitution for a new Iraq democratic government.
(4) Submit that proposed constitution to Iraq voters for approval or disapproval.
(5) After approval by Iraq voters of an Iraq democratic government constitution, hold under that constitution a first election of the members of that government.
(6) Help train, as specified by the new Iraq government, an Iraq military to secure that Iraq government.
(7) Remove our military from Iraq in a phased withdrawal.

Is their progress toward their solution fast enough? NO!
Have they committed many blunders along the way? YES!
Are they making measurable progress toward their solution? YES!
Is an increase in Iraqi voter turnout of more than two-million measurable progress? YES!

Not bad for government work! Who in government would have done a better job?

The evidence provided by the UN, Doctors Without Borders, and the International Red Cross are the only sources I can rely on. Not my fault you don't believe them.

Anyone who searches the Internet will quickly discover that "Doctors without Borders" is a left wing group based in Switzerland.

Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) is a private humanitarian aid organisation most recognised for its projects in war-torn regions and developing countries facing endemic disease. Created in 1971 by a small group of French doctors led by Bernard Kouchner, the organisation is known worldwide simply as MSF, except in North America, where the name Doctors Without Borders is prevalent.

Bernard Kouchner, born on November 1, 1939 in Avignon is a French politician and a doctor. He is co-founder of Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) (Doctors Without Borders) and of Médecins du Monde.
He was born to a Jewish father and a Catholic mother. His political career began as a member of the French Communist Party and he was excluded from the party in 1966. He worked as a medic for the Red Cross (Croix Rouge) in Biafra in 1968. He founded Médecins Sans Frontières in 1971, then Médecins du Monde in 1980 due to a conflict of opinion with Claude Malhuret director of MSF.

He has been in favor for a long time of the concept of Humanitarian interference. In early 2003, he pronounced himself in favour of the intervention in Iraq, as interference against dictatorship should be global, he continued to say that now the focus should be on the actual people themselves, and that they are the only ones that can say yes or no to war.

About MSF:
The MSF role in emergency medical aid
Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) is an international humanitarian aid organisation that provides emergency medical assistance to populations in danger in more than 70 countries.


MSF has been setting up emergency medical aid missions around the world since 1971.

Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) is an international independent medical humanitarian organization that delivers emergency aid to people affected by armed conflict, epidemics, natural or man-made disasters, or exclusion from health care in more than 70 countries.

MSF was founded in 1971 as a nongovernmental organization to both provide emergency medical assistance and bear witness publicly to the plight of the people it assists. A private nonprofit association, MSF is an international network with sections in 19 countries.