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N. Korea has nuclear missile capability to hit US territory

 
 
Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2005 03:47 am
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - North Korea has the ability to mount a nuclear missile on a long-range missile and the communist state could hit U.S. territory, the head of the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency said on Thursday.

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Do you think maybe now Bush will want to deal with N. Korea? Maybe not. This information was released while Bush was yapping on the television last night. Several big stories broke yesterday including the release of hundreds of photos of dead soldiers being shipped home, but didn't get a significant mention because of the timing of Bush's pathetic news conference.
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chris56789
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2005 04:24 am
He didn't say one thing about the damn gas prices either. Mad
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roverroad
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2005 05:17 pm
I would think that the fact that N. Korea has nukes pointed at Seattle and Portland would be a pretty significant news story. Yet the day after the story broke the top headline on CNN is "Jackson jury sees books about boys".

It just proves people are stupid, and people only pay attention to news if it's entertaining. The Bush administration knows that. That's how they push their agenda through.
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squinney
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2005 05:22 pm
Maybe Bush doesn't know?
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squinney
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2005 05:23 pm
Maybe he doesn't realize Portland is in the US?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2005 09:40 pm
squinney wrote:
Maybe he doesn't realize Portland is in the US?


Maybe because it is a lib hot bed he wouldn't mind it being blown up. Laughing
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2005 09:43 pm
And if they fire one or two of the missiles at the US, and kill a million Americans, maybe people will wish that we had invaded North Korea before they had finished developing their WMD.
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Discreet
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2005 10:00 pm
First of all there is no physical evidence proving that N korea can reach the US. Just guesses. we estimate tehy have had enough time to come up with a way to strike the us but we are not positive. Keep in mind lots of countries have nuclear weapons and as much as we are the police state fearing that if we allow countries to have nuclear arms they may nuke someone...but wait allow me to ask a question what country again is the only country to use nuclear warfare?

I think that an unstable country should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons but in the case of N. korea i don't think they are gonna bomb us as soon as they have the capability. I think they know they would get the crap kicked out of them. THey just want it for their own safety. Maybe im wrong though...
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2005 10:18 pm
Discreet wrote:
First of all there is no physical evidence proving that N korea can reach the US. Just guesses. we estimate tehy have had enough time to come up with a way to strike the us but we are not positive. Keep in mind lots of countries have nuclear weapons and as much as we are the police state fearing that if we allow countries to have nuclear arms they may nuke someone...but wait allow me to ask a question what country again is the only country to use nuclear warfare?

I think that an unstable country should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons but in the case of N. korea i don't think they are gonna bomb us as soon as they have the capability. I think they know they would get the crap kicked out of them. THey just want it for their own safety. Maybe im wrong though...


I don't think we so worried about them striking the US as we are of thim attacking SK.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2005 10:20 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
And if they fire one or two of the missiles at the US, and kill a million Americans, maybe people will wish that we had invaded North Korea before they had finished developing their WMD.


now that's erring on the side of life, florida conservative style.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2005 11:18 pm
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
And if they fire one or two of the missiles at the US, and kill a million Americans, maybe people will wish that we had invaded North Korea before they had finished developing their WMD.


now that's erring on the side of life, florida conservative style.

It certainly is, since an invasion before they had finished perfecting their WMD would have certainly taken far, far fewer lives than a couple of nuclear missile strikes. An invasion stacked up against any actual use of Korea's missiles would certainly save many, many lives.

As for whether they can build missiles to reach the US, that is a pointless discussion since they will be able to eventually.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2005 11:21 pm
Discreet wrote:
...but in the case of N. korea i don't think they are gonna bomb us as soon as they have the capability. I think they know they would get the crap kicked out of them. THey just want it for their own safety. Maybe im wrong though...

I don't think so either, but you should take into account that their smart move is to sneak the missiles into the US or wherever, detonate them from within, and then deny responsibility.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2005 10:22 am
North Korea has reportedly airmailed a memo to Japan.


NK 'may have' fired off a missle' in the Sea of Japan.


(I think I fixed the link.)
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parados
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2005 10:32 am
Quote:
It certainly is, since an invasion before they had finished perfecting their WMD would have certainly taken far, far fewer lives than a couple of nuclear missile strikes. An invasion stacked up against any actual use of Korea's missiles would certainly save many, many lives.

As for whether they can build missiles to reach the US, that is a pointless discussion since they will be able to eventually.


I guess if ole Georgie hadn't been so concerned about those non existent WMD in Iraq he might have thought about N Korea back when it was possible to deal with them. Latest intelligence says N Korea has built 6 nukes in the last 3 years based on the amount of nuclear material they have refined because Bush refused to talk to them and cancelled the deal to send them fuel.

North Korea tested a 2 stage missile a few years back but I think Bush ignored that one too.

The good news is --- we don't have to worry about those WMD in Iraq that we didn't have to worry about in the first place because they didn't exist.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2005 10:42 am
What is so brilliant regarding the North Koreans is how incredibly quickly they developed their nuclear capability!

I mean, they were picking flowers until George Bush was installed in office, and bingo-bango-presto: instant nukes!




Not.

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Thank you, Bill Clinton - Scan - North Koreans developed nuclear weapons due to Bill Clinton's lenient arms control policies - Brief Article
American Enterprise, Dec, 2002


"North Korea cannot be allowed to develop a nuclear bomb. We have to be very firm about it" President Clinton declared on "Meet the Press" on November 7, 1993. Now we learn the North Koreans went ahead anyway. Is anyone really surprised that particular Commander in Chief didn't dissuade them?

Charles Krauthammer sure isn't. Back in 1993 he bemoaned, in his syndicated column, that Clinton's entire foreign policy was built on the principle of "talk loudly and carry a big carrot." This soon "degenerated into nothing but carrots: offers of diplomatic recognition, trade, aid, and most important of all, cancellation of U.S.-South Korean joint military exercises." In exchange, the North Koreans offered Clinton "inspections of the Yongbyon nuclear complex by the International Atomic Energy Agency."

But "inspections of self-declared sites are a joke" Krauthammer warned. "We know from our experience with Iraq that a country bent on developing the bomb can comply fully with regular IAEA inspections and build a massive nuclear program undetected." The place to sign a goodies-for-a-baddie deal like the one Clinton offered North Korea, Krauthammer suggested in early 1994, "is on the deck of the battleship Missouri" because "it is unconditional surrender."

Clinton's State Department characterized the 1993 collapse to the Koreans as "very good news." Clinton himself bragged of his efforts "to reach out and reason with North Korea." But "reaching out to the unreachable and reasoning with the unreasonable," Krauthammer warned at the time, "is futile."

We now know who was right. Unfortunately it's too late, and Americans must face another grave threat to their lives. Thanks to the weakness of Bill Clinton.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2005 10:58 am
parados wrote:

I guess if ole Georgie hadn't been so concerned about those non existent WMD in Iraq he might have thought about N Korea back when it was possible to deal with them.

And he would have been in exactly the same situation he was in with Iraq: it is not known for sure whether they have nukes, but at least now it is possible to deal with them.

You are criticizing him for not doing in North Korea what you are critcizing him for doing in Iraq.
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squinney
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2005 11:23 am
Lash wrote:

American Enterprise, Dec, 2002


But "inspections of self-declared sites are a joke" Krauthammer warned. "We know from our experience with Iraq that a country bent on developing the bomb can comply fully with regular IAEA inspections and build a massive nuclear program undetected."


Geez! Have some still not figured out there was no massive nuclear program in Iraq? Rolling Eyes
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2005 11:34 am
squinney wrote:
Geez! Have some still not figured out there was no massive nuclear program in Iraq? Rolling Eyes


Reality is not the point here. The point rather is to fully articulate our fears, act on them and then rationalize our actions in the context of our fears. Fact just make the rationalization more difficult.
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squinney
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2005 11:40 am
Sorry, but heere's a little more reality.

Quote:
Pentagon: No New North Korean Nuclear Weapon Capability
By Al Pessin
Pentagon
29 April 2005


The U.S. Defense Department says a statement Thursday by its intelligence chief was not a new assessment indicating an increased nuclear weapons capability by North Korea. The spokesman was attempting to clarify comments made Thursday by the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency in testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee.

It was this exchange Thursday between Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and Vice-admiral Lowell Jacoby that made headlines.


Vice-Admiral Lowell Jacoby
CLINTON: "Admiral, let me ask you, do you assess that North Korea has the ability to arm a missile with a nuclear device?"
JACBOY: "The assessment is that they have the capability to do that, yes ma'am."
CLINTON: "And do you assess that North Korea has the ability to deploy a two-stage inter-continental missile, a nuclear missile, that could successfully hit U.S. territory?"
JACOBY: "Yes. The assessment on a two-stage missile would give, be able to reach portions of U.S. territory, and the projection on a three-stage missile would be that it would be able to reach most of the continental United States. That still is a theoretical capability in the sense that those missiles have not been tested."
CLINTON: "With all due respect, it is troubling beyond words that we have testimony like that at this time."

But on Friday, the Pentagon's chief spokesman, Lawrence Di Rita called an unexpected news briefing and offered this explanation of what Admiral Jacoby had said.

"He was not making a new assessment," said Mr. Di Rita. "There is no new assessment of North Korea's capability in this regard. And in fact, he was speaking about a theoretical capability to combine missile types and a warhead, such that you could have a theoretical ability to reach the United States, as he described."

Mr. Di Rita says Admiral Jacoby had said something similar a month earlier, and was only rephrasing his assessment, not offering new information. The key apparently new point was when Admiral Jacoby said North Korea is believed to have the ability to put a nuclear warhead on one of its inter-continental missiles. But Mr. Di Rita contradicted the admiral on that point.

"I don't believe we know that and I don't believe that that's part of the assessment," said Mr. Di Rita.

Still, Mr. Di Rita said North Korea's military capability is a threat to the international community, and must be dealt with. He said for now, the United States believes the most important thing is for North Korea to agree to return to talks that also include China, Russia, South Korea and Japan. He said "further steps" could be taken in the future, but he would not say what or when.

Earlier Friday in Seoul, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill said the North Korea nuclear situation "grows with a sense of urgency." Mr. Di Rita would not use that phrasing.

But at a news conference on Thursday President Bush indicated he is concerned about North Korea's suspected nuclear weapons capability, even though it has not been tested or confirmed.

"Look, Kim Jong-il is a dangerous person," said Mr. Bush. "He's a man who starves his people. He's got huge concentration camps. And there is concern about his capacity to deliver a nuclear weapon. We don't know if he can or not, but I think it's best when you're dealing with a tyrant like Kim Jong-il to assume he can."...


READ THE REST HERE

Does what Bush said sound at all familiar to anyone else???
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engineer
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2005 11:44 am
roverroad wrote:
I would think that the fact that N. Korea has nukes pointed at Seattle and Portland would be a pretty significant news story. .


If it was a fact, it might be, but it is only a guess with lots of qualifiers. Remember, Iraq has WMDs and is supplying them to terrorists for use against the US.
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