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Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Mon 18 Oct, 2010 05:03 pm
@farmerman,
I hope that your wife feels better soon!
spendius
 
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Mon 18 Oct, 2010 05:07 pm
@reasoning logic,
So do I.
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Ali phil
 
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Mon 22 Nov, 2010 02:53 am
@Francis,
Alamdulillah? haha
Francis
 
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Mon 22 Nov, 2010 03:03 am
@Ali phil,
Indeed..
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north
 
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Mon 22 Nov, 2010 03:50 pm
intelligent design is a simple metaphysical theory , since it is based on god

if god is all being why is there not life on the moon ?

god has limits , apparantly , god cannot put life in an enviroment that is not condusive to life

therefore intelligent design has limits , it is a religious based theory based on god

it is NOT a science

spendius
 
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Mon 22 Nov, 2010 04:28 pm
@north,
A microscope isn't science either. It's what you derive from what you see in it that is science.
north
 
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Mon 22 Nov, 2010 04:36 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

A microscope isn't science either. It's what you derive from what you see in it that is science.


the microscope is a tool of science , an observation tool and very good really
spendius
 
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Mon 22 Nov, 2010 05:28 pm
@north,
Well--ID is a tool. It's just that the science in it wasn't covered in your science classes. It was in mine. And all my teachers are mentioned somewhere along the thread. Or the other one. And they are all experts. History has sifted them out. Nobel prizes are not history.
north
 
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Mon 22 Nov, 2010 05:54 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Well--ID is a tool. It's just that the science in it wasn't covered in your science classes.
Quote:


what has this got to do with the microscope

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It was in mine. And all my teachers are mentioned somewhere along the thread. Or the other one. And they are all experts. History has sifted them out. Nobel prizes are not history.


not sure what your getting here
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farmerman
 
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Mon 22 Nov, 2010 10:22 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
Well--ID is a tool. It's just that the science in it wasn't covered in your science classes. It was in mine.
what science was that?

How is ID a tool ? What are its basic ppecepts?
north
 
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Mon 22 Nov, 2010 10:56 pm

intelligent design is religion

farmerman
 
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Sat 11 Dec, 2010 04:13 am
@north,
why does this thread keep popping up? Is it a function of the software and my own preferences ? or is there something supernatural behind it?
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farmerman
 
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Sat 11 Dec, 2010 04:15 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Well--ID is a tool. It's just that the science in it wasn't covered in your science classes. It was in mine.
That was a past, unresolved quote by spendy. He claimed that his science class covered the "scientific" aspects of ID, However, he failed to do any follow up even when questioned by several others.
spendius
 
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Sat 11 Dec, 2010 07:39 am
@farmerman,
I've answered it dozens of times in one way or another. In fact it is the basis of my position.

ID creates effective citizens taking the whole gamut of human social life into account rather than some bits of it thought of in abstract euphemisms. My evidence is the success of the Christian dispensation at this point.

You are employing your usual trick when you assert that I failed to do any follow up when questioned by several others. Where? When? Which others?

New readers here are supposed to believe your assertion which I hereby state is blatantly untrue as regular readers will know.

The whole point is the scientific aspects of ID compared with the scientific aspects of anti-ID (atheism) with human beings in the alchemical retort rather than "dirt". The transmuting of the Venus of Willendorf into Katie Couric style. The biology being unaltered.
farmerman
 
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Sat 11 Dec, 2010 10:41 am
@spendius,
where is the science you spoke of/
quit the dodge
spendius
 
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Sat 11 Dec, 2010 12:17 pm
@farmerman,
How can I satisfy you on that score when your style of science dismisses out of hand all that science relating to human emotions. And I have mentioned that often enough. Maybe you should read The Mass Psychology of Fascism.

Maybe you should say that observable cultural differences, instantly recognisable by all of us, in dress, manners, music, art, language and all the rest, skin colour being irrelevant, are merely affectations and not an outcome of the various belief systems. And that the study of them is not science.

It was the same at Dover. Only a certain style of discourse about evolution was permitted. The outcome was thus predetermined. That particular style can only end up where it did.

The expert witnesses were not themselves the locus of the discourse. They were referenced to a mass of documentation, scientific instruments measuring a small proportion of measureable objects, modes of thinking, terrier on a rat style, all of which they not only made use of but which modify their observational powers.

They saw evolution in the limited way they wanted to and had it in isolation from everything else including the schools. The defence as well.

The dodge is at your end.

Measure, for example, the distance between the birth places of couples getting married in various cultural situations. That's an objective measure. Measure the correlation between higher educational awards and number of rooms in the parental abode. That's objective.

And social science is in its infancy. Your science has flowered. The limits of its observation have been reached. It is now technology which requires imagination. And if religion stimulates imagination, as I would argue it does, then eradicating it will bring technology to a halt as well.
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Arella Mae
 
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Sat 11 Dec, 2010 01:09 pm
@north,
north wrote:

intelligent design is a simple metaphysical theory , since it is based on god

if god is all being why is there not life on the moon ?

god has limits , apparantly , god cannot put life in an enviroment that is not condusive to life

therefore intelligent design has limits , it is a religious based theory based on god

it is NOT a science


So if God chose to NOT put life on the moon that limits him? That doesn't make a lick of sense to me.
spendius
 
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Fri 17 Dec, 2010 04:26 pm
@Arella Mae,
It's idiotic actually Arella.
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farmerman
 
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Sat 18 Dec, 2010 07:55 am
@Arella Mae,
Quote:
So if God chose to NOT put life on the moon that limits him?
Even god must obey the laws of science
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 18 Dec, 2010 07:59 am
@farmerman,
How about that; god doesn't understand the laws of science - that he himself supposedly created! LOL
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