Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

Fallacious is a word which is often employed by those who don't agree with a point but haven't the faintest idea of how to counteract it.

It is easy you see. All it requires is to push 10 keys and there you are. Piece of piss. A kid could do it. It wouldn't even need to know what it meant.

I daresay you could train a hungry sloth to do it if you studied Pavlov and his scientific followers who can make people desperate to buy shite in the shops and travel agent's with coloured patterns and mawkish sounds.

There you go again with the sophism -- keep it up. It's vaguely entertaining.

Have you ever heard of "damning with faint praise"?

With you it's faint with damning praise.

((bump)) cant let this little fella disappear

Farmerman: Sorry for the temporary disruption, but can I have your attention for a minute?

you got it Thomas.

We need to exchange e-mail addresses, or telephone numbers, or both, so we can coordinate where and when to meet up. Could you please send yours to guthobla at gee em ex dot net? (The gee, em, and ex stand for single letters of the alphabet. Sorry for this complicated way of telling you, but I don't want to tip off spam bots.)

Im sending you my cell number today. My schedule for "retirement" is taking shape for the end of March, so my schedule will be freed up .Hows your knowledge of places coming?

Mine's terrible effemm. There are so many places.

I once discovered that my next door neighbours but three had been having wife swap orgies for years without me knowing.

How do you define "knowledge of"?

Got it. Thanks!

My knowledge of places is growing by the day. Looking forward to seeing you.

And did this lead you to understand that they didn't like you or that your invitation had gotten lost in the mail, Spendi?

JTT, Thanks for the good laugh for today.

Oh no. They were quite mature people and I was young and innocent. They were in their forties and women of that age I considered old bags at that time.

JTT asked:

Spendius answered:


and anyway if it's a swapping thing - the other people have to be interested in BOTH partners. Like the guys might want the girl of the couple, but if the other girls don't like the guy she's with - it's a no-go.
(I learned this when my neighbors - right next door-invited me into their swinging club.
I just laughed. I told them I didn't even want to go to watch (and they weren't old or 'baggy' - they were my age at the time - right in their prime).

I saw a film of some monkeys the other week. They were pretty swinging I must say. And these evo freaks say we are all monkeys so I suppose it's quite natural and only Christian indoctrination and manipulation is holding everybody back.

Yeah, that was part of it for me - also I just couldn't visualize it - you know- sounded way too crowded.
And when I'd walk into my son's school the next day, I didn't want to have to picture the school secretary naked (apparently, she was one of the swingingest women of the crowd).

Was she helping promote teaching the kids evolution theory?

And she wouldn't have done naked surely? I bet she had lingerie on. Wife swapping orgies without lingerie is fundamentalist evolutionarianism I should have thought.

I would never use a word like "schedule" twice in the same sentence. I doubt I would use it twice on the same page of a long-winded, fannied-out report of my scientific justifications for getting re-funded. It's in such bad taste.

I have often wondered what having my schedule "freed up" might entail. It does sound very important doesn't it? It almost seems as if the rest of us have been restricting effemm's free movements and that he has been sacrificing himself for our welfare considerations all this time.

I don't think so - she seemed to lead a rather prosaic existence outwardly . That's why it was so fascinating to learn what was going on behind the scenes.
I liked her - a lot, actually. She was a very down-to earth, salt of the earth type of person. I guess she just believed in expressing this part of herself freely. She was what we'd call a 'pistol' in the states. Just a live wire.


I don't know about the lingerie issue. And actually I could picture her being more of a fundamentalist than an evolutionist. The funny thing is - the majority of these people involved in this went to the Congregationalist church in town. The minister and his wife (both very attractive people) were among the most active participants.
So your theory, that Christian morals and ethics might be the thing that would inhibit such behavior, might be a little off - unless they were present, but the boredom of small town life overrode all their other considerations.
They were all very familiar with each other - had grown up together and had never lived anywhere else.
I was sort of an interloper. I found it ironic that they viewed me as being from the big city and sophisticated - but you could have knocked me over with a feather when they approached me about it.
Sometimes in those small towns, all the social strictures are dispensed with - no one's there to see or care that they're not followed.