Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

spendi, Your "long and wide experience" has lacked the necessary skills to critical analysis of what you bought.

The writer of that tripe obviously has a definition of "theological views" which suits his purposes and thus the argument is circular.

The charge of "dishonesty of purpose" is founded on the writer's definition and thus that is in the same bag.

Further to that, it is obvious that the writer cannot conceive of any theological views which he is not familiar with which is tantamount to him saying that what he doesn't know isn't a factor.

Like I said, these pweeples wande quotes can hardly read and write. They can hardly claim to do so when their carefully chosen words are presented to a public which can see the total mess they have made of their own image and dignity. Some of them at least.

The real dishonesty is to preach to the public without bothering to fit yourself for the task.

Spengler claimed that the explosion of that sort of thing is the harbinger of a civilisation in its glorious late autumnal colours. To a certain extent the sharp hike in the gold price suggests that those beautiful orange and brown shades do not go unappreciated by everyone.

And we can easily see on this thread, a mere microcosm, the breakdown in communication when ignorance and assertion march hand in hand leading their followers they either know not where or if they do they are keeping very quiet about it.

As I hinted earlier, there are theological reasons which are not suitable for public discussion which one really ought to expect there to be after 1000 years or so of management of a complex social system going from where they were then to where we are now.

It has been intelligently designed and the atheists think it is their turn, citing science in justification, using it essentially, and that they should now take over to guide us safely over the next 1000 years assuming they can do that as they were unable to do in Russia.

And I don't think Louisiana will be all alone.

Who wrote it wande?

Insert "long and wide" between "My" and "experience".

Shirakawasuna wrote:

That's because "atheism" is a pretty weak and small belief, merely the rejection of belief in a God. You are aware that it's possible to think beyond just rejecting Gods as an atheist, right? I hear some of them even like to eat and sleep, occasionally work and maybe even be nice to other people. Atheism doesn't tell them to do that, though, so clearly they're a bunch of dummie hypocrites cuz atheism is their complete worldview, right?

And some of them seek to command the highest reaches of the State. After all, the State does look a bit ridiculous when atheists are not in command considering what has been said about non-atheists.

You do seek an atheist State don't you Mr S. You're not just saying you would like to do a parachute jump I hope.

I don't recall seeing any references to equality from before the Gospels. Jesus never owned equality. He simply pointed out that we did.

Shirakawasuna wrote:

spendius wrote:

I'm asking whether those ladies wande often quotes are aware of those somewhat more dramatic aspects of Darwin when they seek to promote his works in the classrooms.

A too verbose version of "they're tryin' to teach Darwinism!" We promote teaching modern evolutionary theory, thanks. That stuff you're completely ignorant of (but it doesn't stop you from pretending!).

Crikey! There's a "modern" evolutionary theory now. It's probably Mr S.'s theory and he's qualified to stick that to 50 million kids eh?

Will there be a post-modern evolutionary theory?

Shirakawasuna wrote:

spendius wrote:

In fact, that's not science at all. Not "our" science I mean. It's field trip stuff.

I guess you'd reply to my last point by saying, "I agree, scientists aren't that stupid, but the people I talked about aren't "real" scientists". As it turns out, paleontologists and geologists are quite scientific, thanks, and you're still laughably ignorant of them.

And archeologists. Funny I should mention them because there's a story in the Sunday Times written by an eye-witness telling of a marine archeology team scientifically investigating a wreck of a 400 year old Portugese nao lying 3 feet down off Mozambique. Very little is known of the design of such boats due to a fire back in Lisbon and it seems it is "very important" that "we" find out.

Anyway- they found gold. Archeology flew the coop. They wrecked the wreck searching for gold and the team broke up in bitter acrimony. Sunday Best scientists. Not to be confused with the real thing.

Shirakawasuna wrote:

I'm not sure what that "thesis" you referenced in the last paragraph is supposed to be...

The atheist thesis. Obviously.

spendius wrote:
The writer of that tripe obviously has a definition of "theological views" which suits his purposes and thus the argument is circular.


Dear God, he has a definition of a word? Such a thing is surely a tautology! Quick, ban all semantics from language!

spendius wrote:
Further to that, it is obvious that the writer cannot conceive of any theological views which he is not familiar with which is tantamount to him saying that what he doesn't know isn't a factor.


spendius has delved deeply into the writer's psyche after reading a couple of comments on Texas's ordeal with creationists! He truly is amazing.

spendius wrote:
The real dishonesty is to preach to the public without bothering to fit yourself for the task.

"I can haz spurious implied claims without substance?"

spendius wrote:
Spengler claimed that the explosion of that sort of thing is the harbinger of a civilisation in its glorious late autumnal colours. To a certain extent the sharp hike in the gold price suggests that those beautiful orange and brown shades do not go unappreciated by everyone.

"Spengler iz God! Gold and leaves n stuff."

Oh, and ignore Buddhism. And the fact that this "equality" only came about (after 1500+ years of Christian Hegemony) when people started ignoring religion. (Damn that Enlightenment!)

Ah, good for you. I was thinking you might just pull out claims based on your implicit authority ("I iz spendius, I knows "real" science), but you went for the, "look, there's some bad scientists! Scientists suck!" game. Classy.

The atheist thesis. Obviously.

It's a thesis now? Finding belief in God unreasonable?

spendi wrote: On what do you base such a sweeping statement old boy?

Sweeping to the extent that almost everybody on a2k challenges your claims on science, evolution, and religion. That's pretty "sweeping" in my books.

spendius wrote:
Give us a shot of you fatty. Laughs are in short supply.

MATHOS REPLIED.

You know spendi, you have to be living proof that Care in The Community doesn't work.

You are silly **** for brains, snot faced, pustulous invertebrate who doesn't deserve the time of day.



A well evolved microbe you call yourself on your profile.

I can agree with that, well evolved with learning difficulties. You are making an utter idiot of yourself on a daily basis on the I. D. thread, I must pop over there and tell them to keep you indoors.

The contributors over there appear far more talented than yourself, I notice they talk, air a view and piss you off, all at the same time.

It's not just your rudeness that irritates the members in general, or your jumped up smart arsed, look at me ego trips which the educated find highly amusing and somewhat psychopathic.

They admire the time you take on a regular daily basis to humiliate yourself in public too.

I don't know what your problem is, you stupid oink, but I rather consider it would be extremely difficult to pronounce. I've told you previously to save your breath, how on earth do you manage to blow your girlfriend up?

It's high time you realised 'Dear boy' that simply because nobody on the I D thread understands you, does not mean you are an artist.


Now behave yourself.

After all, your depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.

It's high time you realised 'Dear boy' that simply because nobody on the I D thread understands you, does not mean you are an artist.

After all, your depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.

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Shirakawasuna wrote:

spendius wrote:

The writer of that tripe obviously has a definition of "theological views" which suits his purposes and thus the argument is circular.

Dear God, he has a definition of a word? Such a thing is surely a tautology! Quick, ban all semantics from language!

I have already explained that we have a choice between competing circularities.

The writer's use of "damaging" for the opposing circularity is meaningless.

Nothing deep. It is useless to rabbit on about theological views without saying what they consist of. That the earth is only a few thousand years old is not a problem of concern to theologians.

From which I deduce that you think the writer of the Advocate Opinion is qualified to determine the education of 50 million kids in widely different circumstances. That would be mass artificial insemination by donor.

I suppose that provides a nice justification for you not to put yourself to the bother of undertaking a study of Spengler in case you find that it's over your head or gives you pause for thought.


You've started babbling S.

Yeah--ignore Buddhism. We had to show them how to change a light bulb.

I did no such thing. When did I say scientists suck? I provided a story to highlight that a lot of people claiming to be scientists are only scientists when they feel like being. Which will be adjacent to their personal interests. Scientists are nuts. I would have been grabbing the gold myself. Think of the girls @ $1000 an ounce with 5 kilos under the mattress.

Yes--it is really but more so when it's practiced in public action. It is certainly a thesis that science will go down the tube if atheism isn't practiced. There's no half-way house for fence sitters.

Gentlemen,

Please will you keep Spendi under control.

He's making a blithering idiot of himself on the Europe postings.

Mathos's thread regarding The Red Rose County especially.

I thank you in advance of your anticipated assistance in this matter.

George is a professed Christian so there is no way he agrees with anything you AIDsers say. And he is well educated. Better than I am I should think.