Foxy wrote-
Quote:Nope. Didn't call you or anybody else any names. Just pointing out what I see as a pretty glaring hypocrisy when you accuse me of being the emotional one.
What you should try to keep in mind Foxy is that this is an emotional subject for that vast army of pseuds who have their career, and all that goes with it in terms of cash, fame and habit satisfaction, perched upon the shaky foundations of evolution theory.
So it is understandable that the fortunate incumbents of the positions will become emotional, unhinged even, when their lovely little theory, on which I will have something to say shortly, is questioned and especially if it is questioned by someone who doesn't bother with materialistic notions about careers.
The resort to assertions, evasions (see my last post), insults and big esoteric words which few of us know and if we did we might find they had been misused, is an obvious sign of that emotion.
It is also understandable that they will believe that everyone else lives in the same highly charged emotional state that they do in the heat of such a dispute and probably in any other dispute. They only remain calm and equable when they are getting all their own way.
They often claim that evolution theory, which is a purloined common property of their massed ranks, will lead, in their safe and expert hands, to all our lives being saved. No evidence has been forthcoming that progress in medical science in such a hopeless field of operations is due to evolution theory rather than "suck-it-and-see" science for which I have a high regard.
If I was in on it I would probably take a similar line that they do although only false modesty would prevent me for suggesting that I might make a better job of it. I would dangle the temptations of the social consequences of mass atheism under their noses and I can make them sound really quite something to aim for. They haven't the nerve to do that in case their female relatives catch them in flagrente. The logic of the case being congruent with the trends we see as they pass by.
As a hard-pressed taxpayer I am emotionally concerned at the prospect of all the money they are running off with which could be used to reduce the price of beer and smokes or, if one is sentimental, to bring a little hope to the poorest human beings on the earth.
You only have to think of their infrastructure. Air conditioned buildings with polished hardwood furniture, reserved car parking, offices with large desks and gold-lettered titles on their doors, headed notepaper containing the most shameless self-flattery, convenient hours, position in the community, influence in local affairs and many other perquisites which I am too polite to mention. And that's just in the editorial suites where the selected inputs from the coal face are sifted through to see which looks least like drivel. Cichlid blood clotting gives an idea what some of the unpublished material must have looked like.
At the coal face there is all the same stuff as in the editorial suites plus serried ranks of display cabinets containing old bones from which theories are teleologised (poofed) into being, written up, discussed over coffee, and fed into the publicity department to make sure that no self respecting town or city fails to provide similar facilities.
Most of the positions in this army of pointlessness are filled through family or after-hours social connections as one might expect as such a procedure fits well with both "kin-selection" and "group selection" theory and they scrupulously avoid the "measurement problem" as we might all faint clean away if we discovered what it is all costing.
And they have admiring acolytes in the lower orders such as is noticeable on here. The faithful, who are buttressed by thinking they are familiar with scientific principles, also grumble about taxes being too high which is a bit of a predicament to be in I should have thought.
So now that I have declared my interest I think it is only reasonable for anti-IDers to declare their's and get some facts onto the thread. I think they are using Science as a smokescreen to push other agendas.
I forgot to mention that they often organise fossil hunting holidays and conferences in agreeable locations accompanied by "support" staff in order to pile up more fossils until it becomes necessary to extend their premises and so on and so on.
Obviously, with emotions being engaged at such a pitch, it becomes habitual to assume all other people are in a similar state.
And the newspapers love it. Cheap copy is like the very manna from heaven in their offices. And lawyers love it too.
Whatever the cost, and it must be billions, contributes to the cost of beer and smokes being akin to brass-faced extortion.
So you see why they get emotional. Were I to provide a more elaborate description, which I could easily do if I had the time,
nice try at the left handed self complements. I also hope others can read our posts and then read the article youve used as "foundation" to your worldview. 
