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Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

 
 
spendius
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 05:49 am
wande wrote-

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Florida seems to be on the right course for improving science education.


Now there's a scientific statement eh? There are problems with "seems", "right", "improving", "science" and "education". Even "Florida" from a scientific point of view is a bit dodgy. When did Florida begin to exist as a spiritual concept? Some time after the Big Bang I suppose. Lines on maps are convenient beliefs. Look at the ex Jugoslavia for example.
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farmerman
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 06:26 am
spendi
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Now there's a scientific statement eh? There are problems with "seems", "right", "improving", "science" and "education". Even "Florida" from a scientific point of view is a bit dodgy. When did Florida begin to exist as a spiritual concept? Some time after the Big Bang I suppose. Lines on maps are convenient beliefs. Look at the ex Jugoslavia for example.


Gosh, I really must have been missing things while away. Can anyone explain to me what the point is that spendi's trying to make?
Does anyone even care?
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ykw
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 07:07 am
HeLL'O',,, everyone. <waved>. Laughing
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ykw
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 07:26 am
LauGHiNG,,,, 101

CleanLineSS 101

Learning How to Breath in 'ThE ConTroLL RooMs 101

JunGle Fever 101

Who was all JunkiE WHorE Cindy's and Candies' are Doomed!

GoD BLeSS.

Amen.
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ykw
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 08:13 am
DePeNDinG upon' what SecToR YouR Vector is FRoM.,,, Will dictate what HaPPens' to YoU#.,,, not we GooD People,,,, in OtheR WorDs' (eh's) wHat' you ultimately chose.

GoD BLeSS ~


Amen.
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spendius
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 08:25 am
fm wrote-

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Gosh, I really must have been missing things while away. Can anyone explain to me what the point is that spendi's trying to make?


Well go on then fm. Explain what those words signify scientifically. It is a science thread.

The point is that wande's statement should be treated with extreme reserve from a scientific point of view. In fact it meant nothing.

And you care enough to respond and 176,000 odd viewers care enough to visit the thread. One hopes that "evidence" "predictive applications" and "the scientific method" are not just empty terms employed for rhetorical effect as if you are lined up behind those concepts merely by gobbing them out.

Somebody was giving the impression elsewhere that he could "kick-ass" because he threated to when surrounded by paid, burly security men.

It's like watching the destruction of the English language taking place right before your very eyes and you have no other means of communicating.
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ykw
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 08:34 am
ykw wrote:
LauGHiNG,,,, 101

CleanLineSS 101

Learning How to Breath in 'ThE ConTroLL RooMs 101

JunGle Fever 101

'COuRt RooMs 101

Who was all JunkiE WHorE Cindy's and Candies' are Doomed!

btw,,, DurinG Thee construction of Thee eiffel Tower,,, the artist's of thee day revolted,,,., due too it's,,,, (eye sore!).,,,

Think Paris,,, then think Eiffel tower.

GoD BLeSS.

Amen.


~ quieiT knoWinG

~ya GoTTcHa 'GoDiNciDenceS'

~ya GoTTcHa serendipity

~ ya GoTTcHa HaPPEning's

~ ya GoTTcHa coincidences

~ya GoTTcHa 'GoDiNciDenceS'

~ PerGaTOrY miGhT (at times) feel's LikE not wanting to know GoD's 'Truth or You're OwN.

Hence taking drug's.,,, as well as other peoples inventory (like it say's in Thee BiG Book That was written for Drug Addicts and Alcoholic's.,,, as well as Thee Step BooK which will completly guide someone through the steps that will set them free forever.

And thaT miGHT equal the dead space one might be experiencing.

GoD is GooD,,, how i pj know this,,, i (and quite a few people) saw (who used to be) all of Thee Junkie Whore (original) Yannalfo female's and males on Thee internet,,, t.v. cell phones, magazines, home Theaters, books, c.d.'sThe Star magazine, (btw this is how i knew people were stupid) The most widely read magazine on earth was the star magazine!??? ~ hence me etc experiencing an intellectual DeaTH!



GoD BLeSS ~
THanK You 'Oey" who is GoD,,, 'Thee 'One 'And 'OnlY.

OnlY NoN Liar's shall write mt thG story.

ThanK YoU ~ GoD. WhO is Thee One And Only GoD.

Amen.
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ykw
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 09:22 am
All FeMale whores that have absolutly NO Talent posed nakid ,,, because they prayed To satan,,, so they would have someone to blame!

No One ,,, absolutly NO ONE has to pray to satan!

Amen.


So satan was sick and tired of stupidity (that would be all of his followers) so he dumped his followers for peace of mind.

Amen.
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ykw
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 09:35 am
Who was chris angel Laughing is it time to **** a real live monkey on t.v., internet, cell phones, magazines, books, lampshades.


pussy scumbags.

who used to be thepapists psychiatrists all eh's you are doomed.

Amen.
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ykw
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 09:37 am
HellO Bastil,,,

from your x ~ mama Thg.


Amen.
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spendius
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 09:40 am
ykw wrote-

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Who was chris angel is it time to **** a real live monkey on t.v., internet, cell phones, magazines, books, lampshades.


It is difficult to image what arguments an anti-IDer might offer in objecting to the suggestion.
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spendius
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 03:25 pm
Bernie wrote-

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In this last exchange on these two subjects, it is apparent that we agree on little. A tougher problems is that we seem to have quite different notions of how we might go about establishing factual matters or probabilities and how we ought to procede in discussing all of this. There's neither haughtiness nor its opposite in my reluctance to debate you in such a realm, just an unhappy acknowledgement that it isn't going to be productive. None of that negates my admiration and my affinity.


It might be productive for viewers Bernie. You get to put your point of view and I get to put mine and the viewers must have a chance then to be educated because one of us must be right. Surely.

A2K is our free PR company. The growth of PR companies is right up your side's street anyway. Dirt-free hands jobs. Women never wanted jobs when work involved getting full of ****. A sort of tax, if you follow the money, levied on the gammas, like me, by the beta minuses. En bloc and thus very hard to spot especially when the journalists are pissing in the same pot. If a range of PR companies, with their friends and contacts, are pitted against each other on the issue of the meaningless of everything against an intelligent designer having thought it all up in order to test the virtuousness of his most perfect creation, people like you and I, with a view to rewarding the highest IVs with a seat by his side, or her side, hopefully, then you must have beta-minus heaven right here on earth. We gammas think of manifestations of it as "dip yer bread in" time. The higher up a bureaucracy you go the more distance you put between yourself and the "clients". So it's a real rat-race in them as the "clients" are quite tiresome in the main.

They have Smoking in Pubs Control Officers now although they are usually poor quality beta minuses. It's the ones who set them in motion who have a fairly advanced animal cunning. I think a bureaucracy can be likened to an animal. Weber seemed to think so. And I feel certain Foucault has been inclined that way.

The real intelligent design fans don't bother with PR firms. And they see bureaucracies as beasts to hunt or escape from.

If the anti-GW PR firms didn't exist and the other side, the control freaks, all betas are control freaks, Plusses, Minuses and Ordinary Ones, had it all their own way I should imagine the DOW would be back at the 4-5 000 range by now. Just for a start. And still getting choked by the fumes from China and India. Do you fancy that? You need to be powerful to persaude the others to get on board the GW argument and to be powerful you have to keep up with them.

You're on the side that's winning. The ID argument and the GW argument are similar as nobody knows the key answers. Which is perfect to keep the wine bars swinging.
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spendius
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 04:51 pm
"We see the glories of the earth
But not the hand that wrought them all:
Night to a myriad worlds gives birth,
Yet like a lighted empty hall
Where stands no host at door or hearth
Vacant creation's lamps appal."

Gerald Manley Hopkins. Nondum.
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spendius
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 04:55 pm
Somebody shifted the underlining of "host" just in time.
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spendius
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 04:57 pm
Whoops! No they didn't.

This is serious beta minus control freakery. Editing JMH and distorting it.
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spendius
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 05:19 pm
Since GMH has come up viewers might be interested to learn that he coined the word "Parnassian" to refer to the personal dialect of a writer who is writing without inspiration.

Anti-IDers have no chance of any inspiration. Matter-of-fact evidence is what they thrive on. Nothing remotely dangerous. They avoid going out on a fragile branch.

And without inspiration Science comes to a dead end and only technology continues which calls itself Science like the members of the local golf club call themselves golfers.

I could fluff that up a bit more than that but it means that only ID is Science and the science of the technologists is a religion and a crapo one at that.

Does that provide an answer to the original question wande posed oh so long ago the replies to which which would have petered out (fine expression in the circumstances) without my inspired efforts.
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farmerman
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 06:02 pm
Bait casting and chumming are definitely low class means of drawing a bass to the lure spendi.
Are you just preening or are you decrying the soulessness of science?
You often stray out of the yard and need some discipline.

I hear that Bob Dylan is an atheist
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Vengoropatubus
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 08:28 pm
spendius wrote:
Bernie wrote-
It might be productive for viewers Bernie. You get to put your point of view and I get to put mine and the viewers must have a chance then to be educated because one of us must be right. Surely.


I've gotta admit, I stopped reading here, because you're already wrong, based on your abuse of the either/or fallacy.
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MC Kruger
 
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Mon 22 Oct, 2007 10:41 pm
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spendius
 
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Tue 23 Oct, 2007 03:59 am
Vengo-

I didn't abuse it. I never abuse anything. Abuse is the primary human weakness. Everything in moderation is my motto.

The "Surely" was added. Irony should never wink. And there was a "might" as well.

And I'd bet you did read on.

fm wrote-

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Bait casting and chumming are definitely low class means of drawing a bass to the lure spendi


Is there another way? Not this is it-

Quote:
Five Duke University faculty members have been appointed to endowed chairs through the university's Bass Program for Excellence in Undergraduate Education,


Quote:
Are you just preening or are you decrying the soulessness of science


Bit of both.

Bob Dylan is a song and dance man. Where has he said that he's an atheist?
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