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Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

 
 
spendius
 
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Wed 30 May, 2007 05:23 pm
One assumes one's fans are paying attention and are quick on the uptake.

Who would want any other sort of fans?
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Chumly
 
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Wed 30 May, 2007 05:44 pm
spendius wrote:
Hey- I bought in a junk auction this afternoon the clear out of a presumably recently deceased radio engineer, valves (tubes in Yank-speech I gather) and manuals. Six boxes full of the stuff for £15 ($30). I checked one model, a Mullard, on E-bay and they wanted £85 for one and I have ten of those here still in their original packaging. There must be four hundred valves.

So I'm not as daft as you might think.
I'm a musician, I play locally on weekends, and have a bunch of tube amps and other toys.
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spendius
 
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Wed 30 May, 2007 05:54 pm
See if you can do Ain't Talkin' Chum.
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Chumly
 
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Wed 30 May, 2007 06:00 pm
As I walked out tonight in the mystic garden
The sexy flower girls were dangling from the vine
I was passing by yon cool crystal fountain
I thought I'd take her from behind





The real question is, does intelligent design favor one sexual position over another and if so why?




Intelligent behind?
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aidan
 
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Wed 30 May, 2007 10:11 pm
Farmerman wrote:
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We used to go through Cnaan after leaving 2 Rivers Campground with our RV. Its on Rt 2 and youre right, theres very little there and the stained glass guy is still there. The button guy (Gary) had his shop right acroos Rt 2 freom the Stained Glass winow place. He said that he made over 500 bucks a day selling buttons on e-Bay. Of course that when he worked. I think he did one day a week of actual e-Baying and then lived in his antique shop.


I loved that area of Maine-people-scenery-everything. I bet the guy you're talking about is one of the McGowan's. They were this family with about eight adult siblings who still all lived in town or nearby in the surrounding area. The parents owned the gas station and restaurant right on route 2 there in Canaan- really nice people- one of the brothers- Patrick- was a local politician-but a good one- really worked hard for the people of the community.

Anyway, before you get back on topic here, what I was going to tell you was that if you ever go back, try to go back in mid-October (you have a heater in the RV, right?). And if you drive west on Route 2 from Canaan into Skowhegan, there's a bend in the river right before you get into Skowhegan and in the early morning, especially in the fall, the mist comes up off the water, and with the autumn foliage, etc., you've never seen anything more beautiful. I haven't lived there for eight years, but that scene is still imprinted on my brain.

*Also try to go to the Rangely Lake District - north and west of Canaan- up by the Saddleback ski area- another great area of incredible beauty and good camping.
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JLNobody
 
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Wed 30 May, 2007 11:13 pm
Spendius, you say that art is about speed. What the hell are you talking about? Smile
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spendius
 
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Thu 31 May, 2007 03:42 am
Chum wrote-

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The real question is, does intelligent design favor one sexual position over another?
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"Either I'm too sensitive
Or else I'm getting soft."

You can rely on an anti-IDer to think mechanics and an ider to think transcendentally about a word like "position".
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farmerman
 
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Thu 31 May, 2007 05:12 am
Aidan.Ive been around the Rt 2 "mining district" a lot and have seen the area change freom wilderness to small villages of yupee mc mansions and ski lodges. We have property all the way North nenar Estport and we go there and spend most of our time on the water.
We were going to sail to Newfoundland to Lans Aux meadows but have decided against a long voyage this yer. So we are going to chug around Fundy alot and just paint and fish. (Whatevermood hits us on any particular day).
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farmerman
 
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Thu 31 May, 2007 05:14 am
JL, spendi was reffering to the late "Art" Arfons, when he spoke of "Art is about speed"
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aidan
 
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Thu 31 May, 2007 02:50 pm
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Aidan.Ive been around the Rt 2 "mining district" a lot and have seen the area change freom wilderness to small villages of yupee mc mansions and ski lodges.


That's sad- I'm glad you warned me. I guess it's just another type of evolution- although what positive purpose could that kind ever possibly serve?
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Setanta
 
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Thu 31 May, 2007 02:53 pm
FM, are there any archaeological activities that go on at L'Anse aux meadows, or has it all already been dug up?
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spendius
 
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Thu 31 May, 2007 03:31 pm
The BBC just said that Mr Bush's statement on global warming is being greeted around the world with a great deal of skepticism. Some are calling it a snow-job to stall.

Maybe it's due to all the valueless assertions they are used to.

I actually think Mr Bush is serious. The prospect of China and India and some others catching up to the American dream must be pretty alarming.

Maybe the principle enshrined in the lines Bob Dylan wrote a long time ago-

"Oh Baby, that God you're prayin' to
Is gonna give you back what you're wishin' on someone else."

have finally sunk in.

The rest of them are on the point of letting it rip and you would have to be a racist to deny them the opportunity.
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farmerman
 
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Thu 31 May, 2007 03:57 pm
Set, I know that the excavations at L.a.M. were only partially complete a few years ago. There is an interpretive center there and some of the excavations that have just flat been covered over until bigger budgets are available to complete the job.

Each year we plan to steam out and make the turn at Belle ISle Straijght and then ride it out. However , with the price of marine diesel at over 4 bucks, Were not gonna do it this year. Maybe well just take the Ferry and ride all over Newfie land. (But, seeing as they only have 1 decent road, that probably aint happening either)
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stlstrike3
 
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Thu 31 May, 2007 10:12 pm
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spendius
 
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Fri 1 Jun, 2007 03:13 am
I'm not sure that Mr Brownback has said anything useful there. His statement seems too emollient as one would expect from a politician who seeks votes from both camps.

He completely fails to address the social consequences issue or the muzzling question and the difficult problem of the educational arrangements in classrooms in areas having different traditions.
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OGIONIK
 
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Fri 1 Jun, 2007 03:20 am
why is it that god simply cannot have started the evolutionary process?
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Joe Nation
 
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Fri 1 Jun, 2007 03:32 am
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The scientific method, based on reason, seeks to discover truths about the nature of the created order and how it operates, whereas faith deals with spiritual truths.


Of course, no one knows exactly what a spritual truth is as opposed to a truth.

Joe(sooth)Nation
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spendius
 
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Fri 1 Jun, 2007 04:16 am
A spiritual truth might be like an evolutionary truth in the sense that it works to adapt those who hold it to a more successful outcome than one in which they didn't. Human nature being included in the environmental factors.

It is a well known philosophical maxim that each individual human being ia all alone in the universe. Indeed this proposition is thought by some to be the driving power of Western scientific society (The Faustian culture).

To mitigate such a severe doctrine we erect bonds such as marriage and family, clubs and parties and such like by the use of spiritual "truths". Anti-ID, in the last analysis, recognises none of them and regulates social organisation with rules. That was the essence of "Thatcherism". It is the abiding subject in 1984, Brave New World,Catch 22 and Darkness at Noon.

If one compares two groups of people; a christening or marriage ceremony and a subway train at rush hour the difference might be apparent.
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rosborne979
 
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Fri 1 Jun, 2007 05:47 am
stlstrike3 wrote:


That was the biggest pile of fence-sitting, spin-doctored, squirming under the bright light, pandering jargon I've ever seen.

Good job Mr. Politician.

(I feel like I answered this already Smile )
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farmerman
 
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Fri 1 Jun, 2007 06:00 am
Sam Brownback
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The heart of the issue is that we cannot drive a wedge between faith and reason. I believe wholeheartedly that there cannot be any contradiction between the two.
That , in itself is a contradictory statement.
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