I found this thread during my weekly preening practice of Googling my own name. I see that an article I wrote about a month ago has been quoted. Discussion on it seems to be over now, but perhaps I can offer some insight. (If anyone's confused, the post I'm quoting comes from page 919 or thereabouts.)
real life wrote:
Apparently this UA student, Kessinger, is majoring in Propaganda, with a minor in Verbal Sleight of Hand.
The writer offers not one defense of evolution, just insults and innuendo.
I offer no evidence because there's tons of evidence already available. (Actually, I do list one piece of evidence for the Big Bang - the cosmic microwave background radiation - which creationists
cannot dispute.) This was an opinions column, not a serious scientific essay, and my goal was to shed light on some of the philosophical reasons why creationism/ID ought to be rejected, not to simply give a laundry list of evidence.
real life wrote:Kessinger wrote:(Creationism) is a malicious attack on American technological and scientific progress.
Really? In what way? He doesn't say, he simply accuses.
Obviously, it's going to be difficult to probe the cosmological structure of the universe, develop new drugs, understand abiogenesis, or enhance medicine if we don't understand the naturalistic basis for these things.
real life wrote:Kessinger wrote:The creationist effort is spearheaded by two groups: victimized, misguided citizens and politicians who have been fed faulty information,
What faulty information? He doesn't say, he simply accuses.
This is a common creationist tactic - never argue anything, simply demand more, more, more! More transitional forms, more biochemical evidence, more astronomical evidence--nothing is ever enough for you folks! (Also, I had a 700-word limit here.)
real life wrote:This is really the key: Creationists have the GALL to interpret evidence differently than evolutionists.
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To evolutionists, having a dissenting view is often a crime, indeed. Such is the nature of the 'open inquiry' they espouse.
Yes - they interpret scientific evidence
in an unscientific fashion.
You see a large number of dinosaur fossils and say "oh, that's evidence that God killed the dinosaurs in a flood." We see the same fossils and say "oh, that's evidence that a lot of dinosaurs went extinct at one time for some reason." Notwithstanding the fact that the scientific conclusion (the latter) is backed up by far more evidence, there is a good epistemological reason to deny the creationist conclusion.
Consider this: There are two theories regarding lightning. One theory states that lightning is caused by electric potential differences between regions of the sky and the ground. The other theory states that lightning is caused by the hammer of Thor.
Both of these theories have exactly the same evidence supporting them. However, the latter one is not scientific because it is neither naturalistic nor parsimonious. You can still believe it if you want, but it's not science. Don't kid yourself.
Creationists do the exact same thing - and if you had read the column, you would have seen that I addressed this when I stated:
Kessinger wrote:The simple truth is that scientific theories adhere to principles such as testability, falsifiability, parsimony and naturalism. That last one is the most important: It's what prevents scientists from invoking magic, gremlins or God as explanations for physical phenomena. Creationism has none of these principles. There shouldn't even be a controversy; science clearly wins on its own grounds.
If you can demonstrate how either ID or creationism satisfy any of these properties, go right ahead. In the mean time, the debate is
not between creationists and evolutionists. The debate is between creationists and scientists, because what you call "evolution" is the only scientific explanation that fits the facts.