Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

I had asked you if the question was "honest". In my opinion, the senator's question is rhetorical.

I have seen many a rhetorical question answered by jeers, catcalls and booings.

It is an honest question and if Ms Seivers is honest she will provide an answer. And be happy to.

And if she is dishonest, as these high positions in affairs seems to necessitate, is she qualified to hold her position?

The Tennessee attorney general has characterized the senator's question in this way: "the resolution clearly appears to constitute a rhetorical device designed to advocate the teaching of creationism as an alternative to the theory of evolution...."

That's squirming wande and thus pathetic.

I agree, spendi. The senator's question is squirming and pathetic.

Not at all. It is not only a reasonable question but one might say the ONLY question. You answer it. Are we just a random happening of no consequence and with neither meaning or purpose. As I intimated earlier many have said yes to it.

I have an essay in my noggin on the business of assertions such as the AG's and your's but it requires a lengthy quote which I will have to type out so I need to wait for the time and the red rag to wave.

spendi. You misunderstand the use of "random". Life isnt simply a "random occurence". Life's chemicals are like the predictable outcome of card counting in blackjack. What may start out as a purely random event, limits the outcomes of a succeeding event, and so on, so an ultimate outcome is eventually even predictable(given enough Hydrogen, Oxygen, Carbon, Phosphorus,and Nitrogen), and making sure that your concerns for the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, dont violate the 1st.

As far as meaning and purpose, isnt that up to each of us ?

In American English you have just told us that youre menstruating.

Somebody alert the media.

Get me an agent quick. And a publicist. And an attorney.

I'm on easy street. I've always wanted some lingerie.

Random means anything over which human intelligence has no control. Like monkey geneologies in the wild. Something of a function of nature's infinite whims.

We have a random number selector for our Premium Bond raffle and our National Lottery (to our shame) because if human intelligence had any control over it we all know what would happen. Some think it is already happening and sneer when they hear the word "random" used to describe the electronic and bouncing balls methods.

Human intelligence invented the word random and the mathematical concept of randomness which the Greeks didn't have.

You are wriggling again fm.

We are not interested in what meaningless means to any individual. We are interested, or should be, in what it means to a society of 300 million people when fully accepted and fully operational with no cultural drag for its proponents to hide in. What are the social consequences, following logical sequences of thought, given what we know of human nature in a world they all know to have no meaning.

. "You are the weakest link" goodbye.

An assertion plus a scuttering off. Seen it many times.

Im standing, youre incorrect. You scutter off to find a dictionary.

You said "goodbye" fm. I understand that to have meant you are leaving us. Was I mistaken? I hope so.

It is profoundly naive to think that Intellligent Design Theory has any scientific standing.
It is delusional to see any indication that Nature is less than indifferent to its own processes. And, hypothetically, IF Nature has "purpose", how could we possibly perceive and understand it? Can the attribution of teleology to Nature be other than anthropomorphic projection?

Yes, As in "The weakest Link" the hostess announces to the dummy of the moment that "You are the weakest link--goodbye" Then that person leaves the stage with deflated ego and a vow to revenge themselves.
Take my comment in that vein.


jl . Is this gonna be on the test? Im an art major so I shouldnt have to know stuff like this.

IIlike to make bumper stickers out of smart phrases.So heres JL's statement to fit on your car.
"IS everything about us?" Ya know, this could make a neat thread.

How wonderful, Farmer, that you understand me better than I do.

I send you a virtual ST Patties day Card. JL.

painting up a storm are you? we need another artists bullshit thread.

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Well fm, I didn't know you watched shite like that. I'll have to make allowances.



Perhaps that is true but it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with art.

FM: "we need another artists bullshit thread."
Yes, indeed. I havn't talked about art on A2K for some time now. It does seem, however, that the more I involve myself in actual painting, the less I feel able to talk sensibly about the process. Nevertheless, there are so many of you with artistic sophistication that I do not want to pass up the opportunity for learning from you. Make up a topic, will you?

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