fm wrote-
Quote:Apparently we're not focusing enough attention onto spendi. Hes going to start quoting obscure Italian Philosophers and Dead Materialist/gluttons
and from the ivory tower of intellectual excellence ros wrote-
More of the usual gentle viewers.
Nothing to say. Naturally it is I who seek attention and not the the last 3 anti-IDers who seem to have a desperate need to post contentless material.
It wouldn't be so bad if such behaviour didn't imply that viewers are so completely stupid as to not notice.
What can one say to the above quotes?
Vico is "an obscure Italian philosopher" simply on the evidence that fm has never heard of him which is a claim to intellectual oafishness, a combination of stupidity, arrogance and tactlessness. That is fm's standard procedure as with other anti-IDers on here.
Everything they don't know about is "obscure" and thus not worth knowing about. The implication being that only anti-IDers have anything worthwhile to say to those seeking education. And anyone who doesn't agree is, by definition, "insane". A very vague term and self-flattering to those employing it. They are "sane" you see. Geddit?
Enough of such ignorant tomfoolery.
They are attempting to steal (yes-steal) Vico away from interested viewers on a www named Ask An Expert and Able 2 Know. It's a joke.
They only want you to know, dear viewers, what they know and if you fall for it they have you by the short hairs. They have done it with La Mettrie and, most unforgiveably, with Joyce, Spengler and Dylan to name just three.
They seek to close your minds my friends. Fold them into the same tight patterns their's are in.
This is the www- not fm's classroom dias. Their vocabularies are pitiful once their technical books and Google are taken away.
There is a Vico Road in Ulysses and it constitutes a direct bow of obeisance to the man from Joyce but as anti-IDers can't understand Joyce then he is "obscure" as well. No doubt "obscene" too.
Just cheap tricks to keep your noses stuck to the anti-ID grindstone.
Giovanni Battista Vico, aka Giambattista, (1668-1744) is one of the most important philosophers of our Western culture.
He taught that we can only know for sure about those things we have created such as the architecture fm made such a big deal about. Study of nature is only capable of providing approximations to the truth based on feeble attempts to imitate nature under experimental conditions. He thus invented irreducible complexity.
This is not to say, of course, and I hang my head in shame feeling the need to point it out due to the nature of anti-ID discourse, that these experiments are not valuable.
And human beings are part of nature too despite the anti-IDer's self-evident desire to render us into automata.
Vico also argued, anticipating and inspiring much in subsequent European thinking, a morphological nature in human social structures and that political, economic, linguistic, cultural and intellectual processes and development are intimately interconnected. Anti-IDers naturally deny this and are stuck with the determined facts of their science which Vico correctly perceived to be only approximations arrived at artificially by methods anti-IDers determine.
He also said that past societies can only be understood in their own terms and not in terms we lay upon them for various, usually self-serving, reasons and certainly not in terms of a half-baked education so obviously involved in the poster of the previous page who almost fell over his own feet in the rush to claim precedence in the race to assert my insanity.
Now, dear readers, compare this short and rushed post of mine, never mind others, to the contributions of the anti-IDers which you see above it from the point of view of taking your intelligence seriously and suggesting new directions for you to pursue should you have the inclination as one or two of you may. Anti-IDers must have neither in mind.
Anti-IDers are what you need if you wish to learn how to boo, insult, assert your way through life, smear and how best to get your head up your arse in the most efficient manner and to keep it there for ever and ever Amen.
It aint what ya say, its how ya say it. Good analogy
