Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

Georgeob. You know the difference between the modern movement of Intelligent Design and Thomasian snippets.

If religion is removed from schools the literature of the future will be paeans of self congratulation couched in the style of a DIY manual written by an apparatchick scared witless at the thought of being sued.

I don't think our grandsons deserve such a fate which is already almost upon them. (See Dan Brown).

Not sure why you religious folk think that the removal of religion (or other forms of superstition) from the schools will have a negative impact on literature, morality, or society in general.

I suspect, though, that it is simply self-serving drivel.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Not sure why you religious folk think that the removal of religion (or other forms of superstition) from the schools will have a negative impact on literature, morality, or society in general.

I also don't understand why keeping it out will have a negative impact. I attended religion classes from age 5 to age 15. It didn't hurt me, didn't keep me from becoming an atheist, but was definitely beneficial in terms of general cultural literacy.

Frank Apisa wrote:

I suspect, though, that it is simply self-serving drivel.

You say that as if "self-serving" was a bad thing.

Did you mean "keeping it out" or "keeping it in" in your first sentence?

He has a stock of ready made insults which he hasn't felt it necessary to update since about 1923.

He thinks that everytime he spouts one everybody believes it and in the social milieux he obviously moves in they probably do.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Did you mean "keeping it out" or "keeping it in" in your first sentence?

"Out". My impression, admittedly based on only two weeks at two different American highschools, is that religion is currently pretty much out of their curriculum -- and that American liberals generally wish to keep it this way.

Not sure why you religious folk think that the removal of religion (or other forms of superstition) from the schools will have a negative impact on literature, morality, or society in general.

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Not sure why you religious folk think that the removal of religion (or other forms of superstition) from the schools will have a negative impact on literature, morality, or society in general.

I don't remember any religious folk saying that but the statement is ambiguous because of the way in which "negative impact" and "society" are linked together without any sense of what "negative impact" might mean in a society of the future as opposed to what it might mean to the writer of the daft statement.

This might be deliberate, and thus clever, but it underestimates A2K members and is thus stupid or it might not be deliberate in which case it is stupid without any change of trains.

It doesn't constitute proof that decline in religious belief is accompanied by illiteracy but it is a small straw in the wind.

If anti-IDers can't even insult people properly can we trust them to run the educational system?

But it really isn't right to teach superstition in school...and I think the trend toward keeping it out is for the best.

Nice try!

Now grow a brain...and see if you cannot do a bit better.

Ah, there you go knocking the Odyssey again, which we read in school, and which has left a lasting impression on me.

If he simply stands there saying "nice try... and see if you can do better" it is usually a stimulus to giggling.

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Nice try!

Now grow a brain...and see if you cannot do a bit better.

The proper etiquette in male company, when being observed by females, is that when one has picked up the mallet and smacked the button on the test your strength machine and the bell has half deafened everybody one steps aside to allow one's friend to take his turn.

If he simply stands there saying "nice try... and see if you can do better" it is usually a stimulus to giggling.

Are you examining your fingernails superiorly.

"truthfully" eh. On your say so. A rival to Madame Sosostris,the famous international clairvoyante are we?

Ring the bell louder for fewk's sake or pack it in.

Atheists can't write full stop. Never could,can't and never will be able to.

They are brilliant at train timetables and instructions though. I'll give them that. If I wanted to know how to negotiate crossing the road I would definitely ask FA. I have every confidence he could explain how to do that to the toddlers.

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"You have contempt of court" do you not?


Sure you do. Obviously.

What then? Lock them all up in a rock solid religious area.