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Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

 
 
JLNobody
 
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Wed 6 Jul, 2005 02:12 pm
Brandon, your point--"And what do community values have to do with scientific truth?"--is too important for us to pass over quickly.
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Brandon9000
 
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Wed 6 Jul, 2005 06:02 pm
JLNobody wrote:
Brandon, your point--"And what do community values have to do with scientific truth?"--is too important for us to pass over quickly.

It lies at the crux of the matter. The politicians and school board are unqualified for the task they have assigned to themselves.
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Setanta
 
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Wed 6 Jul, 2005 08:07 pm
Nevertheless, the electorate expects it of them . . . or at any event, the politicians believe that a significant number of the electorate who can be relied upon to vote expect them to make such decisions. Lack of qualifications has never deterred a politician.
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JLNobody
 
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Thu 7 Jul, 2005 07:49 pm
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JLNobody
 
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Thu 7 Jul, 2005 07:53 pm
In calling the kettle black this pot at least acknowledges the inferiority of ideology to science.
"Evolution in the sense of common ancestry might be true, but evolution in the neo-Darwinian sense - an unguided, unplanned process of random variation and natural selection - is not. Any system of thought that denies or seeks to explain away the overwhelming evidence for design in biology is ideology, not science." Schonborn.
But if what he and his Church advocate is not ideology, nothing is.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 7 Jul, 2005 08:52 pm
JLN, And I always had the idea that you were a buddhist. Wink
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JLNobody
 
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Thu 7 Jul, 2005 08:56 pm
I hope you do not think I am agreeing with Schonborn. Surprised
Please read the last sentence I appended to my last post.
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wandeljw
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2005 11:10 am
The state of New York also had a proposed bill requiring intelligent design to be taught alongside evolution in public schools. New York's legislative session ended on June 24, 2005. The proposed bill died in committee.
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JLNobody
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2005 11:40 am
Good. The ideologues cannot be converted (enlightened); they must be contained politically.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2005 11:52 am
JLN, WHEW! Sorry to have misunderstood your post. I thought you were supporting Schonborn for a minute. Wink
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JLNobody
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2005 12:34 pm
I hope the soap didn't taste too bad.
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overspool
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2005 01:47 pm
evolution, the scientific result of ID? Question Razz Drunk
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cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2005 02:12 pm
overs, Welcome to a2k. Hey, these creationists have all the answers. God planned it that way. Too bad that the bible was written over two thousand years ago when all the science and technology wasn't available to write a better comic book.
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JLNobody
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2005 09:01 pm
Yes, C.I., such a book could not be written now.
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Setanta
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2005 09:08 pm
Oh, indeed it could . . . L. Ron Hubbard launched "dianetics" in the middle of the last century, and it's been having a really good run . . . it would simply need the right marketing strategy . . .
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JLNobody
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2005 10:33 pm
Does it have parting seas and resurrections of the dead? If it does, don't tell me.
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Setanta
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2005 10:42 pm
Like i said, Boss, you need a good marketing strategy . . . these days, that would entail pseudo-scientific BS in place of miracles . . . but snake oil is snake, no matter the millenium in which it were hawked, nor the provenance . . .
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wandeljw
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2005 08:59 am
Scientology may have a position on intelligent design. The intelligent designer for scientologists would probably be an alien. Scientologists believe in an intergalactic ruler named "Xenu".
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JLNobody
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2005 07:36 pm
That sounds like the "religion", what's it called? Ekankar? Their home office, as I've heard, is on the planet Venus. Rolling Eyes
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wandeljw
 
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Mon 11 Jul, 2005 07:40 am
PENNSYLVANIA UPDATE

Pennsylvania's legislative session ended last week. I am hoping that farmerman will tell us what happened to the proposed intelligent design bill.

Meanwhile in Dover, the school board member who insisted on promoting intelligent design announced his retirement. Below are excerpts from the July 10, 2005 edition of the York Daily Record:
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The man who championed the fight to bring intelligent design into Dover's biology classroom is leaving town.
But Dover Area School Board member Bill Buckingham said he will still be involved in September's First Amendment trial over the district's science curriculum.
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Buckingham led the battle to make Dover the first public school district in the country to include intelligent design in its science curriculum. Intelligent design is the idea that life is too complex to have evolved solely through natural selection and genetic mutation and therefore must have been designed by an intelligent force.
Eleven parents, arguing intelligent design is religiously based, are suing the district. And some legal experts are predicting Dover could be the first test case of the concept.
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Buckingham said he doesn't know when he will formally step down, other than that it will be sometime "in the next month or so."
He said friends and family understand why he's moving.
"It's something actually necessary for my physical well being," he said.
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