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Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Mon 30 Sep, 2013 06:57 pm
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:

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But of course that would not negate what I am acutally saying in my comment:

IF there is the possibility of a GOD...there is the possibility of intelligent design.


And Frank is tacitly acknowledging it's possible the moon is made of orange juice.

Test it!




You should be waiting. It is what you said you were doing.
edgarblythe
 
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Mon 30 Sep, 2013 07:01 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I did and found it ridiculous.
hingehead
 
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Mon 30 Sep, 2013 07:35 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I'm multi-talented. I can wait AND ask you to disprove the moon is made of orange juice or admit it is possible.

(ironic isn't it?)
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 03:12 am
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

I did and found it ridiculous.


Nothing ridiculous about it...except for the reaction to it from folks like you, Edgar.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 03:12 am
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:

I'm multi-talented. I can wait AND ask you to disprove the moon is made of orange juice or admit it is possible.

(ironic isn't it?)


I would use the word "humorous", but I agree.
hingehead
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 07:05 am
@Frank Apisa,
Hang on a sec - are you denying it's possible the moon is made of orange juice, spaghetti man?
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Setanta
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 07:17 am
@Frank Apisa,
Oh no, Frank, you can't get off that easily. Essentially, you have a concept of god, and it's the god of the Jews. You are assuming a creator god, and you've spent a lot of time telling us what god would be like, if there were a god, which you don't know exists.

Continuing to call me names doesn't alter that there is no logic in your position, and that you continue to describe a god which you obsessively say you don't know exists. More to the point, there is no logical reason to assume that if a god did exist, it would have "intelligently designed" any life form--that's a logical non sequitur. Farmerman was right about your feeble arguments.
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 08:37 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Oh no, Frank, you can't get off that easily.


Oh, I see the problem now, Setanta. You have me mistaken for someone who needs your approval for how easily I can get off.

Easy mistake for you to make.

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Essentially, you have a concept of god, and it's the god of the Jews.


I most assuredly do not...and I do not have a concept that requires a "creator god."


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You are assuming a creator god, and you've spent a lot of time telling us what god would be like, if there were a god, which you don't know exists.


You have quite an imagination, Setanta. I have spent any time telling you or anyone else what the "god" would be like. I have merely hypothesizd what it COULD BE like.

C'mon. Get with the program.



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Continuing to call me names doesn't alter that there is no logic in your position, and that you continue to describe a god which you obsessively say you don't know exists.


Try to get someone to explain the difference between a hypothetical...and a description, Jabba. That might help.


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More to the point, there is no logical reason to assume that if a god did exist, it would have "intelligently designed" any life form...


Absolutely, positively not. Which is why I would never assume such a thing. I merely stated a possibility.

You are having comprehension difficulties these days. Something wrong?

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...-that's a logical non sequitur. Farmerman was right about your feeble arguments.


Yeah, sure. They are feeble. (He said with heaps of sarcasm!)

That is why you guys are spending so much time discussing them...and pretending that I said something other than what I said.

Setanta
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:05 am
While you claim not to know that any god exists, you know that god is male, that there is just the one--not gods, but god--and that god would use intelligent design to "create" life on earth. You're a fraud, Frank, but we've known that for years. Logic doesn't enter into your silliness.
Setanta
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:09 am
As for why we spend so much time on your bullsh*t . . . well, hell, it's a slow day. If you paid attention, which is not something i'm entirely sure you're capable of, you'd notice that i stopped talking to you yesterday afternoon, and didn't address you again until this morning. Furthermore, that hours go by with no response to your BS from me, and from others here. You're certainly not as important as you seem to think you are. You're just the dog being dangled on a lazy day.

spendius
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:11 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
More to the point, there is no logical reason to assume that if a god did exist, it would have "intelligently designed" any life form--that's a logical non sequitur.


And there is no logical reason to assume that such a God would not have intelligently designed everything there is.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:19 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

While you claim not to know that any god exists, you know that god is male, that there is just the one--not gods, but god--and that god would use intelligent design to "create" life on earth. You're a fraud, Frank, but we've known that for years. Logic doesn't enter into your silliness.


I do not know that any god exists...and I do not know that any that does has to be male. I call gods "it" as often as possible...but if I have used the masculine pronoun...it was erroneous. Thank you for calling that to my attention (if you have spotted me doing so) ...and I will be as careful not to make that mistake again.

You are correct that logic does not enter my silliness...but often I am not being silly...I am being logical. The comment that is in question now...IS LOGICAL.

And I am not a fraud, Jabba...no matter how much you want that to be so.
farmerman
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:19 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank thinks hes being "intellectually honest".Hed actually be funny if he understood his silly position.MEANWHILE, back in the real world.

In Kansas, the IDers and CREATIONISTS (The CRETINISTS, spendi) have filed suit against the new"MINIMUM" science stndards for public schools (WHATEVER HAPPENED TO EXCELLENCE?). The suit has been filed under "Academic freedoms" acts.
SO, without any reasoning, the stupid A2K "fun and games" arguments that Frank is making,can actually be taught AS SCIENCE. If it wins in court.
There will probably be yet another case like Dover just to satisfy the limited needs for Religious Control espoused by the IDers and Cretinists.

(Be very aware of what you speak Frank, it,... even as silly as it is,... probably has a well moneyed and politically astute constituency in fly-over country).
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:20 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

As for why we spend so much time on your bullsh*t . . . well, hell, it's a slow day. If you paid attention, which is not something i'm entirely sure you're capable of, you'd notice that i stopped talking to you yesterday afternoon, and didn't address you again until this morning. Furthermore, that hours go by with no response to your BS from me, and from others here. You're certainly not as important as you seem to think you are. You're just the dog being dangled on a lazy day.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykdRI3LVHvU[/youtube]


Yup...but here you are again...yapping at my heels.

It's cute.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:21 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Frank thinks hes being "intellectually honest".Hed actually be funny if he understood his silly position.MEANWHILE, back in the real world.

1In Kansas, the IDers and CREATIONISTS (The CRETINISTS, spendi) have filed suit against the new"MINIMUM" science stndards for public schools (WHATEVER HAPPENED TO EXCELLENCE?). The suit has been filed under "Academic freedoms" acts. SO, without any reasoning, the stupid A2K "fun and games" arguments that Frnk is making,can actually be taught AS SCIENCE. If it wins in court.
There will probably be yet another case like Dover just to satisfy the limited needs for Religious Control espoused by the IDers and Cretinists.

(Be very aware of what you speak Frank, it,... even as silly as it is,... probably has a well moneyed and politically astute constituency in fly-over country).


I doubt my argument could be taught as science...but it could be taught as logic.

IF there is the possibility of a GOD...there is the possibility of intelligent design.
Setanta
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:22 am
@Frank Apisa,
No, the comment is not logical. There is no logical connection between the existence of a deity and the concept of intelligent design. It doesn't surprise me at all that you don't understand that.
Setanta
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:23 am
@Frank Apisa,
No logic there at all, other than the "logic" that anything and everything is possible. Such as that the moon is made of orange juice.
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:24 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

No, the comment is not logical. There is no logical connection between the existence of a deity and the concept of intelligent design. It doesn't surprise me at all that you don't understand that.


IF there is the possibility of a GOD...there is the possibility of intelligent design.

Sorry you are not able to see that as logical...but you are not especially logical, Setanta.
Setanta
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:25 am
@farmerman,
The unfortunate part is that, just as was the case in Kitzmiller, the school board which becomes the center of a lawsuit will have to spend huge amounts of money because of the institutionalized stupidity of the god crowd.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 1 Oct, 2013 09:25 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

No logic there at all, other than the "logic" that anything and everything is possible. Such as that the moon is made of orange juice.


Ahhh...finally Hinge has someone with whom to discuss his moon/orange juice thingy. Wink
 

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