Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

@spendius,

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What sort of things do you envisage Mr Christie doing as President which are out of the normal run of things for the position apart from maybe biting the carpet in frustration at finding he is constrained by forces which are much stronger than those he had experienced as a governor?

If Christie were to be elected president, I would expect him to be an unreasonable, grandiloquent bully. He is, in my opinion, an arrogant, bad-tempered, difficult-to-deal-with individual who will be a net negative to federal government.

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@Frank Apisa,

BTW Frank--you didn't answer the question about where you progressive embonpoint is progressing to. It cannot be assumed that the self-praise implied by such usage is justified just as it cannot be assumed that uppity is derogatory.

If the Governor of a state is faced with an entrenched teaching profession, unions and a judiciary which have become habituated to feathering their own nests at the expense of the rest of the population isn't some arrogant, grandiloquent bullying perfectly in order on behalf of those who elected him, presumably, to sort the buggers out.

And if those personal characteristics can be brought to bear on the Syrians and the Israelis and the Palestinians some of us might be more than willing to give them a try because we are sick of seeing kids being blown up and splattered with cluster bomb shrapnels and driven out of their homes and with no end in sight.

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@spendius,

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BTW Frank--you didn't answer the question about where you progressive embonpoint is progressing to. It cannot be assumed that the self-praise implied by such usage is justified just as it cannot be assumed that uppity is derogatory.

Thank you for sharing that opinion.

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If the Governor of a state is faced with an entrenched teaching profession, unions and a judiciary which have become habituated to feathering their own nests at the expense of the rest of the population isn't some arrogant, grandiloquent bullying perfectly in order on behalf of those who elected him, presumably, to sort the buggers out.

Yeah...IF!

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And if those personal characteristics can be brought to bear on the Syrians and the Israelis and the Palestinians some of us might be more than willing to give them a try because we are sick of seeing kids being blown up and splattered with cluster bomb shrapnels and driven out of their homes and with no end in sight.

Once again...yeah, IF!

I say wait to see if he is elected...and then we will see if you find him as attractive as you do now. I suspect not, but I have been wrong before and I may be wrong now.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

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What sort of things do you envisage Mr Christie doing as President which are out of the normal run of things for the position apart from maybe biting the carpet in frustration at finding he is constrained by forces which are much stronger than those he had experienced as a governor?

If Christie were to be elected president, I would expect him to be an unreasonable, grandiloquent bully. He is, in my opinion, an arrogant, bad-tempered, difficult-to-deal-with individual who will be a net negative to federal government.

Christie sounds like one of our former Illinois governors who is currently in prison.

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@wandeljw,

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Christie sounds like one of our former Illinois governors who is currently in prison.

He does, indeed, Wandel.

I hope I am wrong about him...that he matures in office, although I have seen precious little evidence of that except for the way he handled the "Sandy" event and the fact that he stood up to the GOP in making kind remarks about Obama.

I just do not like or trust him.

In any case, I hope our next president is the second president Clinton.

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@spendius,

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biting the carpet

Careful ole twat, that has a very naughty meaning in the colonies

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@Frank Apisa,

most men have greatness and maturity thrust on them.

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@farmerman,

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most men have greatness and maturity thrust on them.

Well then I hope someone or something thrusts it on Christie, because he is running again (with favorables in the 70's; I am a minority on this issue)...and I think he needs the thrust...no matter what the many think!

I wish him luck. Truly. We all need leaders who succeed, whether we like them or not.

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Back to the actual topic of this thread:

I think we have won a great new supporter of Science. You may have heard of him: The Reverend Pat Robertson.

Yeah. That Pat Robertson.

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Enter Pat Robertson, who appears to have become the voice of reason. According to CNN, here’s what he said in response to a question Robertson fielded Tuesday from a viewer on his Christian Broadcasting Network show “The 700 Club.”

“You go back in time, you’ve got radiocarbon dating. You got all these things, and you’ve got the carcasses of dinosaurs frozen in time out in the Dakotas,” Robertson said. “They’re out there. So, there was a time when these giant reptiles were on the Earth, and it was before the time of the Bible. So, don’t try and cover it up and make like everything was 6,000 years. That’s not the Bible.”

Before answering the question, Robertson acknowledged the statement was controversial by saying, “I know that people will probably try to lynch me when I say this.”

“If you fight science, you are going to lose your children, and I believe in telling them the way it was,” Robertson concluded.

Here's the CNN story: http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/29/pat-robertson-challenges-creationism/?hpt=hp_c2

Joe(I'm looking out my window. The sky is filled Poland White Sows.)Nation

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@Joe Nation,

I just saw that on fb. Robertson has a knack for surprising me. He is a patchwork that has no consistent pattern to it.

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@Joe Nation,

It's not really back to the topic Joe. It is the topic. It's a re-wording of the thread title. Like running on the spot.

You're implied criticism of the nature of the thread is misplaced. We started where you have come back to. We have been dealing with the ramifications of the topic. Mostly.

If it is to do with Mr Robertson's daring "I've not been in the news much lately" blurt then it goes without saying that such a manifestation is neither here nor there in relation to the topic. He's only here for 80 or so years and the topic transcends such a puny time-scale. He's only one man and if you saw him stood in his underpants you might not be so star-struck.

God is nowhere near incapable of planting the carcasses of dinosaurs frozen in time out in the Dakotas in order to set us a puzzle. And get us all confused. He could make the radio-carbon dating machine read anything He wants. He likes wars and fights. Competition. Don't you know your Darwin.

We are made in His image which is why we like NFL and other forms of watered-down competitiveness. Poker for example. And a radio-carbon dating machine couldn't detect that characteristic of life.

We like sardonically laughing at the discomfort of others. Take irony for example. We like irony and what could be more ironic than the Handicap Principle which, it seems, is not a matter evolutionists are too eager to discuss for some inexplicable reason. There is no irony in the record apart from about 6000 years ago.

I hope you don't thimk your contribution took us any further than we were on Day One. It didn't.

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@Joe Nation,

It was a Joe(don't forger I'm still here)Nation post.

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@spendius,

Spendius:
You're a riot.
1) You apparently don't have a clue about who the Rev. Pat Robertson is or what his standing is amongst believers of religious drivel. They really, really like and respect him. Suckers. Here's his NETWORK http://www.cbn.com

2) Then you have the nerve to drag out the "Well, he's only one man so who's cares about what he says?" argument. Pathetic.

3) Then, just we as begin to taste the vomit in the backs of our throats, you quote the chunkiest chestnut of all the "We will never face facts." crowd, the 'God is a such kidder!' comeback.
Look, you say "He tries to confuse us poor mortals! That's why we haven't a clue what's true except when people who know the Bible tell us what's true."

(Um..that would include Rev. Robertson as Bible expert, but never you mind your little self about that.)

BTW(we don't really know the sex of the supernatural being, but hey, we don't know if 'He" is THE, as in the only, supernatural being, carry on.)

(I would mention that nothing changes; all the Greek gods were great cutups eight hundred years before the present unified version of Jehovah and those Egyptian gods !!! So foxy about all that 1000 years before the Greeks. )

4) Then you goof up and pretend that because we humans are "made in his image" we are stuck in some attraction to violence.
Yeah, we just can't help ourselves, but we can't blame the BIG GUY in the sky for that.
He made us, but it's our fault.

Next time, say something new.
Joe(I may read it.)Nation

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@Joe Nation,

I know a fair bit about the guy. He's an American media mogul, executive chairman, and a former Southern Baptist minister, who generally supports conservative Christian ideals. He presently serves as Chancellor of Regent University and Chairman of the Christian Broadcasting Network.

He has had a distinguished career as the founder of several major organizations and corporations as well as a university: The Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN), the International Family Entertainment Inc. (ABC Family Channel), Regent University, the American Center for Law & Justice (ACLJ), the Founders Inn and Conference Center, the Christian Coalition, a Boeing 757 Flying Hospital, Operation Blessing International Relief and Development Corporation, and CBN Asia. He's a best selling author and the host of The 700 Club, a Christian News and TV program broadcast live weekdays on the ABC Family Channel via satellite from CBN studios, as well as on channels throughout the United States, and on CBN network affiliates worldwide.

He is the son of U.S. Senator A. Willis Robertson and a Southern Baptist and was active as an ordained minister with that denomination for many years, but holds to a charismatic theology not traditionally common among Southern Baptists. He unsuccessfully campaigned to become the Republican Party's nominee in the 1988 presidential election and as a result of his seeking political office, he no longer serves in an official role for any church. His media and financial resources make him a recognized, influential, and controversial public voice for conservative Christianity in the United States.

Sheesh man!! Don't think only you know about things.

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In 2005, The Daily Show did a story on Pat Robertson's condemnation of Dover citizens for voting out school board members who promoted intelligent design.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-december-15-2005/until-hell-freezes-dover

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@wandeljw,

Do you not wish to reply to me wande? Aaaaaahhh!!!!

Reply to all eh? You snotty little asswipe. Your as bad as ehBeth.

2005???!!! Ye Gods. That's anti-diluvian at the rate things are going. Do you only read Ladies Home Journal? 2005 was when you were charging towards the Fiscal Cliff eagerly and unknowingly. Like blind stampeding steers.

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@spendius,

Oh your god!!!! .... Jesus Christmas !!!.... your God will certainly have a seat of gold next to him-her for you... up there in your heaven. I'm so glad I'll most likely be down in your gods hell with your gods ex angel.... Satan

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@tenderfoot,

reports of entire flocks of flying swine have come in from Adams County.
Pat Robertson agrees with standard geology,I guess someone has alerted the mdia.

My cats have taken up conubial residence with my dogs. (after the Venkman Rule of"Signs of the end times")

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@farmerman,

Surrealism is a well known symptom of atheism.

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@spendius,

and whatare the etymological roots of "surreal"?

OH DAMN, Ive discovered that I left my Inspirons power cable in Quebec. DAMN, Im getting a "Time out" prompt that I got on;ly 10 min of life left on my computor.

What can I say thats important before my lites go out??

Well spendi, at least Ill have you on permnent IGNORE

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