Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

I agree with the last sentence with the proviso that the mockery only plays well with people who are not invited to understand the issues.

I hold no brief for Creationism or ID. Both are whatever anybody wishes them to be. They are prone to heresy from a Catholic theological standpoint which is grounded in millenia long consideration of rumpy-pumpy.

Is it possible for married men to bring a quasi-judicial attitude to rumpy-pumpy?

Me?... mock a bundle of story's and myths that were written by people who thought what they were writing was some thing that in their heads... was that word of a God, and then you have the gall sit in front of a puter and call them Scriptures? And thinking that, by calling them Scriptures... makes them more believable than the Scriptures of Alice in Wonderland.
There are plenty of scientists to this day who believe there is a God and go to one of the 20 thousand or so branches of Christian churches in the USA, on whatever day they call the holy day, and still know that evolution is a fact... So don't sit up on your know it all religious pedestal in the clouds and look down on everyone that finds you a bloody twit.

What's evolution? What's a scientist? What's a Christian church?

have you lost your keys again spendi?

Obviously you can't provide the definitions.

That post suggest you are out of bed at 5.00 am. CBS had a scientific report the other night which said getting up early was linked to obesity.

Are you obese fm?

No, I have to get up at 5 AM to change out my catheter bag. Thank you for your kind thoughts.

If I become kinder towards you fm as a result of such knowledge I trust you will not take advantage of me.

Hell, I dont really care what you do. Its your typewriter.

That made this morning's read worthwhile . . .

I didn't say you cared what I do. I was merely informing you that the knowledge you imparted will tend to make me kinder towards you and I expressed the hope that you would be gentleman enough not to take advantage.

Henry Miller said somewhere that it might be worth it to be a war hero in a wheelchair in order to be able to tell people what he thought of them without getting thumped.

Really!!!

Christ man, do some reading. Do you not know what any of those three things are? Wait, you are trying to be coy.

Naughty boy.

Joe(either that or you're as dumb as a bag of hammers)Nation

When spendiosus can't think what to say... he says what he can't think to say

Evolution, Joe, is "**** happens", a scientist is someone who can spell "Quantum" and knows how to use the word to good effect in conversations, and A Christian church is where a sensible young man goes to find a wife and a sensible young woman goes to be found.

As you assert that you read more than I do you should have definitions of those terms which are an improvement on my puny efforts.

What are they?

You were asked the questions and your blather rather looks as if it is a pathetic attempt to cover up that you either don't know or feel you ought to be discreet.

Yes, any definitions I might come up with would improve on those, but I believe it would be unkind of me to go that direction because I believe those definitions are the best representatives of, erm, your thinking and beliefs.

Reading back through these pages for other hints as to the length and depth of your worldview (there is apparently much greater length than depth, but no mind.), I have a question for you, Spendius.

You resent so much of modernity, you reject science out of hand, your definition of a Christian Church is limited merely to marital matters.

Are you a member of the Taliban?

Joe(you should be)Nation

"I believe" eh? Twice. I thought you didn't do beliefs Joe.

Anyway--I hereby grant you permission to be as unkind as is necessary in order to answer the questions asked of you rather than going off on another of your very silly, ignorant and insulting rants.

I have a medal for active service in the Middle East you fat-lipped sap.

Are you applying for the post of Director of the Homeland Hatchery and Conditioning Centre?

I don't know how you make it through the social day spewing shite like that out.

I don't resent anything. Being born where I was is better than winning the national lottery. I do not reject science at all. It is science that leads me to the conclusions I have reached. You know nothing about science. I worked for the first twenty years of my adult life in government scientific establishments asociated with military hardware. I passed on to lecturing in science at a university and a special college. Then I became a businessman and have worked for both political parties. The socialists first which taught me that there are no socialists.

And my definition of a Christian church is limited to sexual regulation because that is what the Christian Church is all about. As Professor Greer said--it's a "fertility machine". The law covers everything else although weasel words can make it all a bit fuzzy. Sin has clarity. A good Catholic would not hack somebody's phone in the same way that he wouldn't steal candy from a baby's pram. A sense of personal guilt would prevent both whereas only the fear of not getting away with it would prevent others.

Attacking the other side without offering your alternative is the hallmark of wobbly, dithering wimpiness and a pathetic attempt to score cheap points. The very cheapest actually.

Holy Marlene! See what I mean about length rather than depth?


No. That would be my good friend, Frank. I know, all of us Yanks seem the same to you, but not if you pay attention.
[quote]Anyway--I hereby grant you permission to be as unkind as is necessary in order to answer the questions asked of you rather than going off on another of your very silly, ignorant and insulting rants.

I have a medal for active service in the Middle East you fat-lipped sap. [/quote]
My lips have been complimented over the years because of their shape and girth, so I don't take that as the insult you thought you were delivering.
Question: Is it your opinion that insults provide some service to intelligent discussion. I don't believe that that is true. (there's a belief for you)
Please refrain from further denigrations, they reflect badly on your education.
I find it interesting that you served in the Middle East in some undefined position; perhaps that where you picked up the Taliban philosophy.



You nearly made me spit up my morning coffee. I must remember not to sip while reading your prose. Not resent anything? Why, Spendius, your whole approach to everything I've read from you from springs from some sort of resentment, mostly the passage of time, which is understandable given that you are deeply into your dotage. Sorry, is that an insult? It was meant to be an observation.
Your rejection of science, especially Evolutionary Science, is renown on these pages and it too is something you share with the Taliban. It's almost as if you spent all those years only tangentially involved with the actual science being done, perhaps that is the cause of your suspicion and your gall-filled comments towards progress.
Speaking of insults, what a snide remark about Catholicism? It's curious that you say such things, knowing that you 'believe' that without such institutions, civilization as we know it, would devolve into chaos.
Am I overstating your position?
And it's nice to know that Catholics are the standard of upright morality and would never, what was it?, oh yes, hack a phone or steal a baby's candy. I must talk to my Irish uncles. Their tales of fire-bombing Ulster police stations must be apocryphal and those other stories one hears these days about the defiling of children at the hands of Bishops and Priests must be fantastic hyperbole.
Really. You should write more comedy.

I am not attacking you, Spendius, you asked the questions. I offered you the opportunity to answer your own questions in the way you wanted.
You did. I thought, and now I am a bit surer, that your answers put you in the philosophical view as the Taliban and we'd all like to know much, much more about that.

It's not everyday one gets to talk to someone from the 13th Century.
Joe(It was a shame that the Moors were expelled from Spain, right?)Nation

What's evolution? What's a scientist? What's a Christian church?

We still await your considered answer Joe. I gave mine and you haven't offered anything worthwhile in response.

You sound like you have been stung on the scrottie by a South American fighting bee Joe.

Are you a Commie? That running must be starving your brain of oxygen.





Pheidippedes ran the first marathon barefoot over untarmaced tracks. You need cushion soled Nike trainers and laced refreshments. Is that progress from an evolutionary perspective.