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Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez anything more than an political cheerleader?

 
 
Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 07:29 pm
Yes, everyone on the left is madly in-love with "AOC". Just like every other young liberal woman she is "intelligent" and "brilliant" and "strong" and "courageous" and "yadda-yadda".

Can anyone say anything substantive about her (other than she parrots what liberal want to hear)? I can tell you what Elizabeth Warren stands for, and I can point out ways she as made me think or challenge her own base. I can do the same for Kamala Harris or any other liberal (or conservative) women?

Can any liberal AOC fan name something that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has said that they didn't already believe?

(Just to get the nastiness out of the way... yes, this kind of empty, knee-jerk ideological celebrity worship annoys the hell out of me.)
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Real Music
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 08:52 pm
@maxdancona,
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez grills Cohen on Trump finances.

Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) questions
Donald Trump's former personal attorney Michael Cohen
on documents related to the President and his finances.

Published on February 27, 2019
maporsche
 
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Reply Thu 28 Mar, 2019 12:26 pm
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/28/18285533/aoc-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-poll-favorables-media

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), the social media star and self-identified democratic socialist, is fairly unpopular around the country.

Interesting results from these polls. The one I found most interesting was this bit...

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A large number of Democrats — 44 percent — haven’t heard enough about her to have an opinion. A much smaller percentage of Republicans — 23 percent — can say the same. AOC is simply better known among Republicans than Democrats, and this is driving her unfavorables up.


There are a number of reasons why this could be the case. Her overall political message is pretty polarizing, and it’s not surprising that this would turn off Republicans especially. But disproportionate attention to her in conservative media seems to be a major part of the story.



I also find myself agreeing with her here...although I think a good part of this is her own making.
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“I’ve got a full-time job in Congress and then I moonlight as America’s greatest villain, or as the new hope. And it’s pretty tiring,” she said. “This ravenous hysteria — it’s really getting to a level that is kind of out of control.”
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 28 Mar, 2019 01:36 pm
The only time I saw her on t v she was very articulate and enengaging.The republican attacks are good for her because it call attention to her. A majority of voters know fox and friends are almost as big a liar as Trump and most of his administration. I wouldent call the brainwashed trumpies liars because they are disseminating the information according to their instructions.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 28 Mar, 2019 01:55 pm
She's trying to wake up Americans sleep walking into climate mayhem. That's useful.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 28 Mar, 2019 10:24 pm
@Real Music,
That's a good video, RM, thanks for posting that. She behaves in an intelligent and polite manner, thanking him for his responses, and it seemed to me that Cohen relaxed somewhat, and was more willing to answer her fully. It is also noteworthy that she focused on a matter which relates to her district--and it is her job to work for her constituents.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 28 Mar, 2019 10:34 pm
By the way, Miss Ocasio-Cortez says several things that I don't agree with. That's neither here nor there, because I don't live in her district. If the electorate in her district doesn't feel she is serving their interests, she'll be gone. Then Max will have to find another woman to beat up on.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 28 Mar, 2019 11:43 pm
@maxdancona,
The question is whether Alexandria Ocasio-Cortex functions as anything more than a political cheerleader. Liberals were completely willing to insult Sarah Palin (who was a conservative cheerleader) so this isn't about gender. It is a about someone who excites the liberal base by telling them what they want to hear and AOC has the look, the energy and slogans.

Let me ask again; Can any liberal AOC fan name something that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has said that they didn't already believe?

maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 28 Mar, 2019 11:51 pm
Objectively... she has had some awkward interviews where she had trouble making a point and was uninformed on the topic.

She has been fitted to the liberal "intelligent, strong and courageous woman(TM)" stereotype.

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Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 29 Mar, 2019 12:32 am
@maxdancona,
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Can any liberal AOC fan name something that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has said that they didn't already believe?

Yes.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 29 Mar, 2019 07:52 am
@Olivier5,
I would love to see an example...

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Rah Rah Rah.... Go Teeeeaaaaammmm!!!

Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 29 Mar, 2019 07:58 am
@maxdancona,
I don't think so.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Fri 29 Mar, 2019 10:54 pm
@maxdancona,
Rep. AOC Questions Secretary Wilbur Ross:
'Why Are We Violating The Law?'

Rep. Alexandria Oscasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) questions Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross over his role in adding the citizenship question to the 2020 census. The House Oversight and Reform Committee hearing took place in Washington.

Published March 14, 2019
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 29 Mar, 2019 11:42 pm
@Real Music,
Wilbur Ross is evil incarnate. I'm glad to see that she's been doing her homework. The Republican committee member who attempted to come to Ross' aid just made himself look like a fool.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 30 Mar, 2019 01:14 am
This will warm Max' little heart:

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WASHINGTON — Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez appeared for an hour-long town hall on MSNBC Friday evening to discuss her Green New Deal proposal and the issue of climate change but things got heated when an audience member called a former Republican congressman a "moron" during a debate. 

While discussing the bill, former Rep. Bob Inglis, a Republican from South Carolina who lost his seat in Congress due to his ideas to combat climate change, said he didn't believe the Green New Deal could be done within one Congress (two years). He also voiced worries that holding a left-leaning event calling for attention to climate change could disenfranchise moderates or Republicans. 

"I worry that what we do is if we have basically the mirror image of a Trump rally on climate change that we drive all the people away that could come our way and solve this thing now," Inglis said, adding that "You can't do it in a single congress —the entire Green New Deal. It is literally impossible." 

He ended with a question, saying that if we take on climate change head-on if we could later come back to issues like universal basic income and healthcare, which have left Congress notoriously divided.

His comments led to loud groans from the audience, many of whom appeared to be fans of Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat. Some shouted "No!" One audience member shouted: "You moron!" 

Ocasio-Cortez was readying to respond when she heard the audience member and stopped. 

"Hey! Hey! Hey! That's unacceptable," Ocasio-Cortez said as she pointed her finger at the audience member. Then, looking back at Inglis, she added: "And that's the difference between me and Trump."

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3316808002
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Real Music
 
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Reply Sat 30 Mar, 2019 08:46 pm
@Setanta,
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Wilbur Ross is evil incarnate. I'm glad to see that she's been doing her homework. The Republican committee member who attempted to come to Ross' aid just made himself look like a fool.

I agree and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez definitely came prepared.
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 30 Mar, 2019 11:48 pm
@Real Music,
She’s definitely not the mindless bimbo some would like to portray. I think she’s made one or two factual errors, but nothing to be ashamed of.

I’m just disappointed that she’s caved from harder line progressivism on a few occasions, but it is what it is.
Real Music
 
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Reply Sun 31 Mar, 2019 09:03 am
@Lash,
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She’s definitely not the mindless bimbo some would like to portray.
Those who view her as a mindless bimbo are simply wrong.
So far she has demonstrated herself to be a serious and intellectual person.


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I think she’s made one or two factual errors, but nothing to be ashamed of.
That can happen to anyone.


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I’m just disappointed that she’s caved from harder line progressivism on a few occasions, but it is what it is.
There are some circumstances and occasions that this is strategically necessary.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 31 Mar, 2019 12:15 pm
@Real Music,
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Those who view her as a mindless bimbo are simply wrong.
So far she has demonstrated herself to be a serious and serious intellectual person.


I think the truth is somewhere in between mindless bimbo and intellectual person. She has presented the liberal agenda in a away that makes the liberal base happy; no one can deny that she has charisma.

However, she has had trouble in some interviews and has had trouble explaining important topics in depth.

The problem is that the left base needed a "brilliant" "courageous" "progressive" heroine and thrust her into that role. It is an interesting question if anyone could live up to the image of this mythical hero. She was anointed by the left, and now she is a national hero to some and a villain to others.

I have some sympathy for the argument that she never asked to be thrust into the national spotlight as she has.


Real Music
 
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Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 07:15 pm
@maxdancona,
As a registered democrat, I am happy that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a member of my party.

She is definitely an asset to the democratic party.
 

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