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Mueller: No further indictments

 
 
Brand X
 
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Reply Sat 23 Mar, 2019 04:35 pm
@maporsche,
It's pure corruption, that's what it is.

Also several of these Youtubers are interviewing independent journalists who have been on the ground in Venezuela and Syria etc., it's not simply their opinion they go on, they research. Jimmy Dore has done the best job and he's a comedian who simply has a good BS detector and he cares.
Brand X
 
  1  
Reply Sat 23 Mar, 2019 04:50 pm
@aaronjmate

'Watching a procession of MSNBC voices downplay the Mueller probe or double-down on the conspiracy theory, I’m realizing that a “moving the goalpost” .gif doesn’t cut it. Anyone got a .gif where an entire stadium is uprooted, loaded onto a spaceship, & moved to a different galaxy?'
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Brand X
 
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Reply Sat 23 Mar, 2019 04:54 pm
@ggreenwald

'One media lesson of the Iraq War was supposed to be that it's very unhealthy to exclude dissenters and those who are skeptical of the prevailing media narrative. Any chance MSNBC might realize that largely banning dissenters on Trump/Russia produced a very unhealthy environment?'
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 23 Mar, 2019 06:57 pm
@Brand X,
Ive been listening toay at the GOP talking heads were siding with the report. Even Julie anni
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 23 Mar, 2019 09:59 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Yeah American politics are going to be in the shitter until we get another Reagan.

We have one. His performance has been outstanding. Other stuff, not so much.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 23 Mar, 2019 10:10 pm
@jespah,
Quote:
n October 2018, the National Council for the Training of Journalists named Seth, as a freelancer, to its annual list of the "most-respected journalists" in the United States and the United Kingdom. Voted on by working British journalists, the NCTJ listing featured nine freelancers; others honored by the NCTJ in 2018 included Pulitzer Prize winners Bob Woodward and Ronan Farrow and Emmy- and Murrow Award-winning CNN reporter Christiane Amanpour.

Amanpour is an apologist. The platforms are almost all liberal. And the journalism awards have been politicized too.

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Brand X
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 08:02 am
Yep.

It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million
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maporsche
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 09:40 am
@farmerman,
Robert Mueller is suddenly not a bad guy and his team of democrat lawyers are suddenly not crooked or evil.
maporsche
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 09:42 am
@Brand X,
I honestly still do not understand.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 10:11 am
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

Robert Mueller is suddenly not a bad guy and his team of democrat lawyers are suddenly not crooked or evil.

I see no evidence of any Republican commentators suggesting that. Rather it is the observation that a team of biased Justice Department and FBI officials who organized the whitewash of Hillary Clinton's likely criminal actions as Secretary of State, both with respect to highly classified documents and the paid for approval of the sale of North American uranium assets to Russians, suddenly moved on to an investigation of supposed collusion in the Trump campaign organization. Their behavior with respect to the latitude given witnesses and targets of the investigations in these two investigations were starkly different, with extraordinary latitude given in the first and deceitful, illegal methods used in the second to monitor the communications of their targets and extort testimony under threats of prosecution.

Despite all this a Team of negatively biased judicial & FBI functionaries were unable to come up with the case they so earnestly sought to develop for nearly two years.
hightor
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 10:23 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Despite all this a Team of negatively biased judicial & FBI functionaries were unable to come up with the case they so earnestly sought to develop for nearly two years.

Wouldn't it make more sense to wait until the details of the investigation have been studied before trying to make it conform to the expectations and biases of your own side?
georgeob1
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 10:32 am
@hightor,
No it would not. The facts that there will be no further charges and that the investigation failed to establish the case for which it was initiated is already on the table and evident to all. My comments were based on only that very evident fact, and the observable character of the two contrasting investigations done by many of the same people.

Democrats will surely seek to pursue the details of the records and testimony that was collected to provide fodder for their continued hysteria and political action, However it remains to be seen if this obviously partisan and biased "judicial" process will succeed. Established law is against them in several areas they have identified for continued pursuit.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 10:35 am
@hightor,
Quote:
the details of the investigation

Whatever those details are they led to no indictments for collusion with Russia against Trump or his family. The MSM reported those things like they were inevitable. Then a zero.

Anyone hanging on for details hate Trump so much that any accusations, unproven at that, will be taken like Gospel and exploited by a vicious political party and media to degenerate Trump. There will be no shortage of talking heads telling you what it means (all bad) , again, with no solid proof whatsoever.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 10:36 am
@georgeob1,
Exactly. This Jimmy Dore vid from October 24, 2017 lays out exactly how Russiagate begin, who was involved and why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7yWn-RosPQ
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Brand X
 
  0  
Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 11:13 am
@ggreenwald

'Like Taibbi & others, I was banned for 2 years from MSNBC & CNN - after years of invitations - for questioning & expressing skepticism about their now-discredited tale. There's probably no plaque for that, but I'll always regard it as one of my proudest journalistic achievements.'
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Brand X
 
  0  
Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 12:19 pm
@aaronjmate

'The lies that were charged - George P, Flynn, Cohen - didn’t lead us to a conspiracy (in fact, undercut it). That’s why Don Jr wasn’t indicted for lying about Trump Tower meeting (or Moscow Project). Goldstone wasn’t indicted for saying his letter to Don Jr was “publicist puff.”'
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maporsche
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 12:21 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

Despite all this a Team of negatively biased judicial & FBI functionaries were unable to come up with the case they so earnestly sought to develop for nearly two years.


Their job wasn't to indict Trump, despite what conservatives keep parroting. Their job was to investigate what happened, and hopefully we'll know soon enough.
Brand X
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 12:33 pm
@MaxBlumenthol

'“Being on any team is a bad look for the press, but the press being on team FBI/CIA is an atrocity, Trump or no Trump. Why bother having a press corps at all if you’re going to go that route?”'
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 12:43 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

georgeob1 wrote:

Despite all this a Team of negatively biased judicial & FBI functionaries were unable to come up with the case they so earnestly sought to develop for nearly two years.


Their job wasn't to indict Trump, despite what conservatives keep parroting. Their job was to investigate what happened, and hopefully we'll know soon enough.


This was an investigation by an appointed Special prosecutor, acting under existing law governing that process. Their job ( though we have yet to see the 2nd Rosenstein letter) was to investigate the charges of collusion with Russian interference in the election by the Trump campaign. No charges relating to that issue emerged. "Finding our what happened" is not the prescribed legal outcome, your assertion notwithstanding.

Our legal system is designed to judge only specific actions that violate the law. Judging the overall merit of an individual (as the Democrats clearly have already done in the case of Trump) is not an appropriate function of the law, The ongoing efforts of Democrats to examine all the information produced in the investigation to aid the continuance of their dialogue about how "bad" Trump may be is a violation of the letter and spirit of our legal system.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2019 04:40 pm
@georgeob1,
Forgive me if I am wrong but arnt 35 or so Trump people either in jail or on their way? That ought to say something about Trumps honesty which was questioned years before he became president.
 

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