Is masturbation evil?

HAHAHAHAHA!

we have been totally nailed!

check out iljc profile, and connect to the website mentioned.

You'll see our friend Momma Angel is one of I thing 15 members of this group, other names I recognized were Coastal Rat, Echi, Timber.

Yes, I am one of the members on there. So what? Actually, is it any of your business, Chai Tea? Is it anyone else's either? Afterall, wasn't it mentioned that perhaps I would feel more comfortable on a different type of site? Well, if I choose to go to another site, it's what? Let's see, if someone gives you a suggestion and you take it then they get to ridicule you for following that well-meant advice? And if someone has a website on their profile, so what? That's not against the TOS, is it? And how nice of you to let everyone know other peoples' business, Chai Tea. Guess you didn't think about them though when you did this, did you? I couldn't care less that you told people I am on that forum. I mean, dang, didn't y'all tell me I'd be more comfortable somewhere else? So what?

And, if you had bothered to read anything I had posted on there, you would notice that I said since I had been accused of trying to find Christians to post on A2K that I was now going to do it? Of course, that would just point out that I was telling the truth when I refuted Setanta's allegation in the first place, wouldn't it?

Everyone has their opinions, Chai Tea. It doesn't mean they are right and it doesn't mean they are wrong. It just means that is what they feel or believe. Not everyone is going to like what everyone thinks. You can't tell me you haven't had bad thoughts about certain posters, can you? Should everyone be held accountable to everyone else for every single thought they have had about others?

So many posters on here say they want to be treated fairly and not be made to feel as if they are being looked down upon by someone because they don't believe in God. Well, I have seen plenty try to get across to those that just because they don't believe that doesn't mean others automatically think them evil or heathens. But, those statements have gone unaccepted. Then, when someone lashes out in frustration THAT is what is accepted.

So, Chai Tea, if you think you have busted anyone, IMO you have just busted yourself and others that seem to feel the way you do. No matter how hard I tried to explain how I felt or no matter how honest I was, it didn't matter to many. They stick with their interpretation of the situation and close their eyes and ears to what is being said to them. It's something everyone in this world does, Chai Tea. I have said time and time again that we all have differing beliefs and feelings and opinions. That IS REALITY. The reality is the world is made up of all kinds of people. Some are more educated, some aren't. Some are young and inexperienced, some are not. So, let's just attack everyone for everything different about them, why don't we? Let's ridicule those that can't spell very well even though we know what it is they are saying. I mean, afterall, there are so many of us in this world that have no faults whatsoever and cannot be called a hypocrite because of it, right?




The site administrator is someone called spirit warrior....that must be the evangelist....

And so what if spirit warrior is an evangelist? As long as he is not evangelizing on A2K, it shouldn't bother you a bit. That is, of course, unless you CHOOSE to go to that other site and read.

iljc - I didn't see any home schooled teenagers when looking at the profiles....the closest I could come was someone named master chief who had sh!itty spelling.....my bet is you're either My2Punkins or this newcomer whose web address is sexylingerie.com

here's a quote about A2K from My2Punkins.....

A2K is able2know.com. It's an all religion forum with so many lost people it's scary. There's even people who call themselves Christian but have some serious blinders on. You would be very welcomed there if you were to go (by the Christians anyway), LOL.

I think I was treated fairly decent until I mentioned my demonination. It's hitting now and it's not gonna get any better unfortunetly. I just told them it let's me know I'm in the right religion when they bash me!

Well, Chai Tea, perhaps it is scary to this person. How many times has the statement that Christians are dangerous been made? What's the difference?

The satanist doesn't believe in satan and he thinks he's a god.

Well, he did make these statements, Chai Tea. So?


BUSTED!!!!

Yep, you sure are. You want that equality and compassion from believers but boy, let us be imperfect one time. :wink:

wah wah, go if you want. I am sick and tired of people telling me what a nasty person I am for making them (gasp!) think about what they believe.

Chai Tea Wrote:

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HAHAHAHAHA!

we have been totally nailed!

check out iljc profile, and connect to the website mentioned.

You'll see our friend Momma Angel is one of I thing 15 members of this group, other names I recognized were Coastal Rat, Echi, Timber.

Yes, I am one of the members on there. So what? Actually, is it any of your business, Chai Tea? Is it anyone else's either? Afterall, wasn't it mentioned that perhaps I would feel more comfortable on a different type of site? Well, if I choose to go to another site, it's what? Let's see, if someone gives you a suggestion and you take it then they get to ridicule you for following that well-meant advice? And if someone has a website on their profile, so what? That's not against the TOS, is it? And how nice of you to let everyone know other peoples' business, Chai Tea. Guess you didn't think about them though when you did this, did you? I couldn't care less that you told people I am on that forum. I mean, dang, didn't y'all tell me I'd be more comfortable somewhere else? So what?

And, if you had bothered to read anything I had posted on there, you would notice that I said since I had been accused of trying to find Christians to post on A2K that I was now going to do it? Of course, that would just point out that I was telling the truth when I refuted Setanta's allegation in the first place, wouldn't it?

Everyone has their opinions, Chai Tea. It doesn't mean they are right and it doesn't mean they are wrong. It just means that is what they feel or believe. Not everyone is going to like what everyone thinks. You can't tell me you haven't had bad thoughts about certain posters, can you? Should everyone be held accountable to everyone else for every single thought they have had about others?

So many posters on here say they want to be treated fairly and not be made to feel as if they are being looked down upon by someone because they don't believe in God. Well, I have seen plenty try to get across to those that just because they don't believe that doesn't mean others automatically think them evil or heathens. But, those statements have gone unaccepted. Then, when someone lashes out in frustration THAT is what is accepted.

So, Chai Tea, if you think you have busted anyone, IMO you have just busted yourself and others that seem to feel the way you do. No matter how hard I tried to explain how I felt or no matter how honest I was, it didn't matter to many. They stick with their interpretation of the situation and close their eyes and ears to what is being said to them. It's something everyone in this world does, Chai Tea. I have said time and time again that we all have differing beliefs and feelings and opinions. That IS REALITY. The reality is the world is made up of all kinds of people. Some are more educated, some aren't. Some are young and inexperienced, some are not. So, let's just attack everyone for everything different about them, why don't we? Let's ridicule those that can't spell very well even though we know what it is they are saying. I mean, afterall, there are so many of us in this world that have no faults whatsoever and cannot be called a hypocrite because of it, right?




The site administrator is someone called spirit warrior....that must be the evangelist....

And so what if spirit warrior is an evangelist? As long as he is not evangelizing on A2K, it shouldn't bother you a bit. That is, of course, unless you CHOOSE to go to that other site and read.

iljc - I didn't see any home schooled teenagers when looking at the profiles....the closest I could come was someone named master chief who had sh!itty spelling.....my bet is you're either My2Punkins or this newcomer whose web address is sexylingerie.com

here's a quote about A2K from My2Punkins.....

A2K is able2know.com. It's an all religion forum with so many lost people it's scary. There's even people who call themselves Christian but have some serious blinders on. You would be very welcomed there if you were to go (by the Christians anyway), LOL.

I think I was treated fairly decent until I mentioned my demonination. It's hitting now and it's not gonna get any better unfortunetly. I just told them it let's me know I'm in the right religion when they bash me!

Well, Chai Tea, perhaps it is scary to this person. How many times has the statement that Christians are dangerous been made? What's the difference?

The satanist doesn't believe in satan and he thinks he's a god.

Well, he did make these statements, Chai Tea. So?


BUSTED!!!!

Yep, you sure are. You want that equality and compassion from believers but boy, let us be imperfect one time. :wink:

PoetSeductress wrote:

Oh, come on, Questioner. One person's interpretation posted on the Internet does not speak for all Christians' views.

Didn't say it did, did I? I was offering something constructive for the poor bastard that's getting frustrated by all the jokes.

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Still, even if masterbation is immoral, we cannot be "sin-free" regardless of how much we might try.

Some can control themselves better than others. Let's not be to critical on either side of the situation.

Kindly point out where I was critical of ANYTHING and I'll gladly respond to it. As it sits, you are being both presumptuous and ignorant.

neologist wrote:

I wouldn't even try to tell you I have never masturbated. Heck, I was born before the years had numbers; I've had plenty of time to live and learn. I speak for men and can only opine about women.

I submit that masturbation is a harmful practice. Think about it: what goes through your mind while beating the chicken? your term paper on the industrial revolution? Hah! Don't tell me; I think I already know. I submit that 99.99% of masturbation fantasies involve adultery or fornication. (Or worse, rape)

So, what's so bad about that? Well, there are few things more pleasurable than orgasm; and here you are rewarding your adulterous thoughts with this powerful climax. Remember what Jesus said about those who even think about adultery? What would he say to those who embellish their thoughts with prestidigitation?

I suggest if you are a habitual masturbator, you should try to find some other outlets for your energy. I'd suggest talking to your priest, but, well, you know. . .

You first need to make the argument that the organism provides reward for the "harmful" fantasy, and is not simply an integrated part of the process itself.

Then you need to make the argument that the fantasy has negative real world implications.

Then you need to make the argument that masturbation exacerbates the real world damage from this fantasy and not (for example) the reverse.

Where are your arguments?

Momma - I don't feel I have busted myself.

why would I?

I don't think you even realize what I mean. That's ok.

There's no ulterior motives within me MA, you should know that by now. What you see is what you get.

And that's one of the things I have always respected about you. You do put it out there. But, you don't usually get so personal with the attack. I have no interior motives either, Chai Tea. I lay it out there. I tell the honest truth. Hasn't been accepted that way and some of that I can understand and some I can't. But, that's life.

It wasn't the point that you belong to another forum, or what you talk about on another forum are anything else of that nature.

Just didn't see the need to bring it up at all. It has nothing to do with this forum.

Actually, my point has nothing to do with religion.....

Here's my point.......

This "kid" (still not so sure I believe that) comes on this thread with no formulated ideas of his own, just some short prattles here and there saying basically nothing.

In your opinion, Chai Tea. But, he obviously felt he had something to say. I don't think everyone on A2K has a lot to say either, but I don't find it necessary to point it out, thus possibly making them feel less than and I didn't understand you doing it. You just don't seem to me to be the kind of person to deliberately hurt someone's feelings at all.

Here comes the meannie part......If this is a 16 year old that has been home schooled, someone as f*cked up big time....3rd graders write better than him. Beyond the horrible spelling, punctuation and grammer, there is no sense to it.

No, there is not. But, did you pointing out how "whatever word you would like to use here" he is or isn't help? He is a sixteen year old child Chai Tea. Surely you remember what it was like to be 16? Wanting to be all grown up and yet get defensive when called a child or have your flaws pointed out? There are human beings on the other ends of these monitors. I think sometimes we all seem to forget that.

I get angry too that it apparantly acceptable to let a near adult loose on the world with skills that wouldn't get him hired at McDonalds.

Intolerance? From you? Sure, it makes me mad too. It makes me mad that our children are not getting from our educational system what they will need to make it in this life. But, taking it out on the kids isn't the answer, is it?

He and his parents should both be ashamed of themselves for how little he knows. Of course that's very mean of me to say because somehow the "system" must have falled him.

Perhaps they should, Chai Tea. But, why did you feel that YOU should be the one to point this out? Chai Tea, don't you see? This is a form of intolerance isn't it? We ALL have intolerance to something, Chai Tea. I will never deny that. But, I was just surprised at it from you. It did not seem to fit into my perception of you.

Like bella said, if you're gonna play with the big boys, you better come prepared...I'm not talking about being a Rhodes scholar, but when the response you get to questions is something like "uhhhhhh, I like........potato chips......uhhhhhh." I feel jerked around.

You feel jerked around because someone is not as intelligent as you? You feel jerked around because perhaps they were making a joke or whatever? Why take it personally? I wish I had a nickel for everytime I have been told to not take it personally. We all do it. We all take things personally at times that are not meant that way.

if what's him name can come here and put more than 10 words together, totaling more than 2 sentences, and express what he means, that'd be great.

I wasn't lookin for special consideration or whatever. I just can't waste time with someone who is stupid, and worse knows he's stupid and doesn't care.

Then Chai Tea, with all due respect, do not read it. Just ignore it.

Oh, and no, I don't really read much of anything you post in religion anymore. Nothing against you at all, I'm just busy participating in other stuff.

Doesn't change a thing in my day. And I don't mean that in a smart mouthed way. If you do, you do. If you don't, you don't. That is your choice and I respect that.

Honestly, and I mean this in the friendliest way, I wasn't trying to involve you in this at all.

but if you're going to recommend people post here, at least you can suggest they put their thoughts together, at least somewhat.

Well, hate to break the news to you, Chai Tea, but I had nothing to do with I Love Jesus Christ coming to A2K. Actually, I have been responsible for one person and one person only registering on A2K. And the only reason she joined was to get involved with that scenario I had started about making laws and stuff. Had nothing to do with her being a Christian or not. So, I cannot take any credit for any Christian signing up on A2K. And, trust me, I am NOT asking ANYONE to sign up on A2K now and will never do it again.
peace out.

i apologize to every one if i said any thing to affend you.do you accept?

Momma - I don't feel I have busted myself.

why would I?

There's no ulterior motives within me MA, you should know that by now. What you see is what you get.

It wasn't the point that you belong to another forum, or what you talk about on another forum are anything else of that nature.

Actually, my point has nothing to do with religion.....

Here's my point.......

This "kid" (still not so sure I believe that) comes on this thread with no formulated ideas of his own, just some short prattles here and there saying basically nothing.

Here comes the meannie part......If this is a 16 year old that has been home schooled, someone as f*cked up big time....3rd graders write better than him. Beyond the horrible spelling, punctuation and grammer, there is no sense to it.

I get angry too that it apparantly acceptable to let a near adult loose on the world with skills that wouldn't get him hired at McDonalds

He and his parents should both be ashamed of themselves for how little he knows. Of course that's very mean of me to say because somehow the "system" must have falled him.

Like bella said, if you're gonna play with the big boys, you better come prepared...I'm not talking about being a Rhodes scholar, but when the response you get to questions is something like "uhhhhhh, I like........potato chips......uhhhhhh." I feel jerked around.

if what's him name can come here and put more than 10 words together, totaling more than 2 sentences, and express what he means, that'd be great.

I wasn't lookin for special consideration or whatever. I just can't waste time with someone who is stupid, and worse knows he's stupid and doesn't care.

Oh, and no, I don't really read much of anything you post in religion anymore. Nothing against you at all, I'm just busy participating in other stuff.

Honestly, and I mean this in the friendliest way, I wasn't trying to involve you in this at all.

but if you're going to recommend people post here, at least you can suggest they put their thoughts together, at least somewhat.

peace out.