To acquiesce to those who cry out for relevancy, I offer this.
Maybe what some may find hard to grasp is that for the 60% (for now) of us who in fact acknowledge a Creator identified as God in this country, we need not concern ourselves so much if He is on our side, but rather focus on making sure that we are on His.
and 50% of american adults read at 8th grade or lower proficiency.
Just think: almost all of those voted for Bush, Dyslexia!
Sorry dys, we are screaming for relevancy on this thread, the "10 Reasons we Should Encourage the use of Vouchers" is three threads over.
And be careful, PDiddie might accuse you of an ad hominem attack.
I certainly hope that you weren't meaning to imply that there is a correlation between the two percentages, you weren't doing that, were you?
Better not, Tartarin. We wouldn't want you to strain.
Max
I confess that the Creator has chosen to set me on a path which does not intersect his own, and we are both fine with that. I suspect that if we met, we'd both be pretty disappointed.
I'm an atheist, voted for Bush, and was reading above 12th grade level in junior high. What does that do to the stats?
Maxdadeo, it is very easy to ridicule religion, unfairly at times. I respect your faith in God and know what a comfort it can be, but haven't you seen the fundmentalists who go beyond reason? I'm related to some of them--very nice people with no interest in understanding other religions; instead, they allow their lives to be controlled by the church. When I talk to them I feel like their minds have been taken over--it's a little like the Twilight Zone. George Bush is a fundamentalist, an evangelical who is directed by his church to try to convert as many people as possible.
This rather stupid man must feel that he has the opportunity to convert the world. As a fundamentalist, he doesn't have the mindset to listen to other points of view; they are automatically wrong, as far as he and his church are concerned.
Many presidents have been religious, Jimmie Carter is a prime example, but he never let his religion dictate his decisions regarding the administration of the United States and that is the question of this thread--"Does Bush's faith inappropriately dictate policy?
For any other president holding office during my soon to be 60 years on earth, I would say no. For Bush I would say yes--and it scares me half to death.
roger
You are, and I've suggested this before, a bell curve anomoly. Now, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. True, my mother in law was one as well, but only because her moustache was WAY better than mine, and that was a bad thing for everyone other than the depilatory corporate giants.
Diane, thank you for the rare and kind word.
Despite what many of you may think, I do not consider myself a Bush apologist, nor do I feel that religion, or specifically Christianity, needs an apology.
Too few of those who are similarly inclined choose to counter the seemingly never ending drum beat of atheistic dogma and godless wishful thinking that permeates these threads, I guess that makes me special.
I applaud the faith based application to policy, because as an evangelical Christian myself, anything less would be far worse.
Oh, and one more thing. No one including GWB thinks that one can convert with a gun, so discussions to that end are bound for a cul de sac.
"godless wishful thinking"... what an interesting group of words. I suppose an opposite formulation might be your preference, Max?
godly wishful thinking, or godly wishful not-thinking.
Nice try, blatham.
I was thinking more like "wishing Godfull thinking".
More like, "wishing godawful thinking."
Diane
GW is a United Methodist - thats about 45' from a Fundamentalist.
roger
Quote:I'm an atheist, voted for Bush, and was reading above 12th grade level in junior high
Would you make the same mistake again.
Fool me once shame on you.Fool me twice shame on me.
No husker, THANK YOU.
And thank you for the reminder, as well. I seem to forget that sometimes!! :wink:
Any election is a choice between alternatives, au. And hindsight is not 20/20. We only know the result of the choice we made, not it's alternative.
roger wrote:Any election is a choice between alternatives, au. And hindsight is not 20/20. We only know the result of the choice we made, not it's alternative.
Some people never "know" the result either... In some cases the person they voted for won, so they assume everything is rosy and never consider real problems that arise. In other cases the person they voted for lost, so they spend the term of the office seeing everything as bad, evil and misguided. These are the people that make meaningful debate impossible, because they aren't dealing with reality. They know only their own ideology. Anything that doesn't fit it is inherently evil and anything that does is inherently good.
