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UN report of genocide in Mayanmar and Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Aung San Suu Kyi's complacency

 
 
Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2018 12:53 pm
A UN report by the UN Human Rights Council has called for war crimes charges, to which the report refers as genocide, against Mayanmar military leaders and has criticized Mayanmar State Counsellor and Nobel Peace Prize laureate, Aung San Suu Kyi, of complacency in their crimes. It also accuses Facebook of being an instrument used in spreading hate and calls for investigations into the extent inwhich posts and messages therin have led to "real-world discrimination and violence."

In assessing the charge of genocide, the report first defines it, "genocide occurs when a person commits a prohibited act with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group, as such. The Rohingya are a protected group under this definition. Their treatment by the Myanmar security forces, acting in concert with certain civilians, includes conduct which amounts to four of the five defined prohibited acts; (a) killing, (b) causing serious bodily or mental harm, (c) inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the physical destruction of the group in whole or in part, and (d) imposing measures intending to prevent births."

It goes on to explain the genocidal intent of the crimes committed in Rakhine State saying that, "the crimes in Rakhine State, and the manner in which they were perpetrated, are similar in nature, gravity and scope to those that have allowed genocidal intent to be established in other contexts. Factors pointing at such intent include the broader oppressive context and hate rhetoric; specific utterances of commanders and direct perpetrators; exclusionary policies, including to alter the demographic composition of Rakhine State; the level of organization indicating a plan for destruction; and the extreme scale and brutality of the violence."

The report also explains its charges of crimes against humanity, "On the basis of information gathered, the Mission finds that crimes against humanity have been committed in Kachin, Rakhine and Shan States, principally by the Tatmadaw. For Kachin and Shan States, these include crimes against humanity of murder; imprisonment; enforced disappearance; torture; rape, sexual slavery and other forms of
sexual violence; persecution; and enslavement. In Rakhine State, these and additional crimes against humanity were committed. The elements of extermination and deportation are also present, and the systematic oppression and discrimination not only supports a finding of persecution, but may also amount to the crime of apartheid. For both northern Myanmar and Rakhine State, the acts were committed as part of a widespread and systematic attack on a civilian population," and war crimes, "Given the Mission’s consideration that non-international armed conflicts existed in Kachin and Shan States (for the entire period under review) and in Rakhine State at least since August 2017, much of the conduct which gives rise to crimes against humanity will also satisfy the war crime elements of murder; torture; cruel treatment; outrages upon personal dignity; attacking civilians; displacing civilians; pillaging; attacking protected objects; taking hostages; sentencing or execution without due process; as well as rape, sexual slavery, and sexual violence. Certain acts committed by EAOs and ARSA may also constitute war crimes.
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It's interesting that the report finds that these actions may also amount to the crime of apartheid.

https://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/FFM-Myanmar/A_HRC_39_64.pdf

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-un/myanmar-generals-had-genocidal-intent-against-rohingya-must-face-justice-u-n-idUSKCN1LC0KN

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45318982


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6102387/Aung-San-Suu-Kyi-blasted-failing-stop-genocide-against-Rohingya-Myanmar.html
 
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2018 01:17 pm
@InfraBlue,
She was stripped of the freedom of Dublin last December.




From theJournal.ie

Councillors vote to strip Aung San Suu Kyi of the Freedom of Dublin

Councillors voted in favour of the motion at a council meeting tonight.
Dec 13th 2017
DUBLIN CITY COUNCILLORS have voted to strip Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi of the Freedom of Dublin.

Councillors voted in favour of the motion at a council meeting tonight.

This means that the honour will be rescinded with immediate effect.

Councillors had earlier voted on a motion by Fianna Fáil Councillor Michael Mullooly that a two thirds majority would be needed to strip Suu Kyi of the honour.

Aung San Suu Kyi was awarded the Freedom of the City on 1 November 1999, the same day all the members of U2 also received the award.

Suu Kyi was under house arrest in Myanmar when she was honoured and she accepted it in person in 2012.

The push to strip her of the honour had come in recent months amid increasing international concern over the persecution of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar, on which Suu Kyi – the de-facto leader of the country – has remained silent.

Last month, musician Bob Geldof returned his own Freedom of Dublin scroll that was conferred on him in 2005, in protest at Suu Kyi still retaining hers.

Councillors also have voted this evening to accept Bob Geldof returning his Freedom of Dublin honour – 33 in favour to 7 against with 5 abstentions.

Yesterday, rock band U2 wrote to Dublin City Councillors to urge them to remove the Freedom of the City from Aung San Suu Kyi.

The band were longtime campaigners for Suu Kyi when she was being persecuted in Burma (now Myanmar) but have said in a letter that she has now “betrayed the principles for which she was so revered”.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2018 02:20 pm
@InfraBlue,
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A UN report by the UN Human Rights Council

Is a joke. The UN is an Islamic tool. Rohingya Muslims have committed many atrocities. I do not see on of them mentioned. Islamists think that they can kill and rape with impunity. Mayanmar says no.
Quote:
Report claims Rohingya militant group massacred nearly 100 Hindus

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/22/asia/rakhine-state-hindu-massacre-intl/index.html
Quote:
Armed Rohingya group massacred Hindus in Myanmar, Amnesty International report alleges

'It’s hard to ignore the sheer brutality of ARSA’s actions, which have left an indelible impression on the survivors we’ve spoken to'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/myanmar-hindu-massacre-arakan-rohingya-salvation-army-rakhine-state-a8364506.html
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2018 03:45 pm
@coldjoint,
Hundreds of thousands of people are being scapegoated for the actions of the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army (ARSA). The collective punishment of the Rohingya is not justified.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2018 04:06 pm
@InfraBlue,
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The collective punishment of the Rohingya is not justified.

The relentless advance of Islam through violence is not justified either.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2018 04:23 pm
@InfraBlue,
I agree with InfraBlue (in fact it seems too obvious to even argue).

Killing all Muslims, based only on their ethnicity, is no better than killing any other ethnic group. I don't understand how anyone in a Western culture can argue to justify genocide (no matter how much you believe that Jews or Muslims are intrinsically evil... they are still human beings)..

coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2018 04:34 pm
@maxdancona,

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Killing all Muslims, based only on their ethnicity, is no better than killing a Jews.

Why leave Christians out? And the facts are not obvious. The UN is not about to say anything negative about Muslims. BTW Jews are not killing Hindus for being Hindu or Christians for being Christian. Islam kills both just for that.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2018 04:49 pm
@coldjoint,
That's the point. Genocide is genocide no matter which ethnic group is bring targeted; Christians, Jews or Muslims.

If you kill people based on their ethnicity, you are committing genocide.

That seems to be what you are justifying.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2018 07:53 pm
@maxdancona,

Quote:
That seems to be what you are justifying.

I am justifying nothing. I am saying Islam has a track record and genocide is something they are quite good at. I refuse to see them as victims except being a victim of the religion they practice.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 02:43 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
I am saying Islam has a track record and genocide is something they are quite good at.


In Standard English Islam is referred to as "it." Who are "they?"
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 04:21 pm
@InfraBlue,
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Who are "they?"

Why even ask such a stupid question? They are people of the Islamic religion who kill people because they are obligated to do so because it advances Islam and terrifies people. Try reading what the religion says about terror and the Hijrah.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 04:33 pm
@coldjoint,
The hundreds of thousands of Rohingya victims of Mayanmar's genocide didn't kill anyone. They are being scapegoated for the actions of a militant group.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2018 07:56 pm
@InfraBlue,
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The hundreds of thousands of Rohingya victims of Mayanmar's genocide didn't kill anyone.

People that live there know Islam brings violence. There a history of it with Hindus. Some people think the Islamic genocide of Hindus is the worst in history.
Islam is designed to be aggressive and violent. People do not have to accept that because Islam says so. Those people get it, you do not.
camlok
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2018 01:54 pm
@maxdancona,
Quote:
I agree with InfraBlue (in fact it seems too obvious to even argue).

Killing all Muslims, based only on their ethnicity, is no better than killing any other ethnic group. I don't understand how anyone in a Western culture can argue to justify genocide (no matter how much you believe that Jews or Muslims are intrinsically evil... they are still human beings)..


Max, the STUNNING HYPOCRITE! As are many many many Americans and other westerners, like ECY, InfraBlue. You are no different than coldjoint.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2018 01:57 pm
@coldjoint,
You get that that's genocide as collective punishment.
camlok
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2018 01:57 pm
@maxdancona,
Quote:
That's the point. Genocide is genocide no matter which ethnic group is bring targeted; Christians, Jews or Muslims.

If you kill people based on their ethnicity, you are committing genocide.


Genocide means more than that, Max. While your displeasure is correct, it is radically uneven.

Quote:
That seems to be what you are justifying.


cj has been plumping for all out war against Muslims, as have you and ... all based on the usual US government lies. Why don't you folks ever learn?
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camlok
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2018 01:59 pm
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
In Standard English Islam is referred to as "it." Who are "they?"


Infra is simply trying to show off his "knowledge" of English. Here he brings up an old, never accurate for the English language, silly prescription.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2018 02:15 pm
@camlok,
It's a prescription for Standard English, not your crack whore mother's dialect.

Get it straight you weasel.
camlok
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2018 02:26 pm
@InfraBlue,
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It's a prescription for Standard English


Precisely," a prescription for the nutty prescriptivists who have long hijacked Standard Written English" for which there is no historical basis.

This couldn't be your actual profession, could it, Infra?

Prof Pullum highlights the idiocy of such people.

Quote:


http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1854

The grammar gravy train
November 2, 2009 @ 10:46 am · Filed by Geoffrey K. Pullum under Books, Ignorance of linguistics, Syntax


Looking for a job? How about one where you set your own hours, you don't have a boss, you have nothing to do but write at your own pace, you end up receiving fat royalty checks, and you don't have to know anything at all about the topic that you write about? The job is to write non-fiction (textbooks and handbooks), only it's OK if you don't have a clue about the subject matter.

One word about your new career (and it's not "Plastics"): grammar! The field where nobody much cares about anything that's been discovered since the 18th century, and you don't even need to get the 18th-century stuff right!
camlok
 
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Reply Thu 30 Aug, 2018 02:27 pm
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
not your crack whore mother's dialect


racist, sexist much??!!!!!?
 

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