Elon Musk the founder of Tesla is a racial bigot

Tesla Motors is offering a street legal car that can go 300 miles (that's 485 km) on a single charge. No one else even comes close.

You can't argue with results.

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This is what I saw in Zagreb. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g294454-d8298585-Reviews-Nikola_Tesla_Statue-Zagreb_Central_Croatia.html

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@cicerone imposter,

If you want another great example of someone with problematic beliefs... Nikola Tesla is a good one.

He believed in Eugenics, for one thing.

Nikola Tesla wrote:

The only method compatible with our notions of civilization and the race is to prevent the breeding of the unfit by sterilization and the deliberate guidance of the mating instinct ... The trend of opinion among eugenists is that we must make marriage more difficult. Certainly no one who is not a desirable parent should be permitted to produce progeny. A century from now it will no more occur to a normal person to mate with a person eugenically unfit than to marry a habitual criminal.

That doesn't take away from his accomplishments in Engineering.

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@maxdancona,

Many people have idiosyncracies. I probably have them too!~ Mr. Green

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Plenty of electric cars available over here. Nothing by Tesla, nobody wants them.

https://www.goultralow.com/choosing/electric-car-selector/?tech%5B%5D=100-electric&body%5B%5D=city-car&body%5B%5D=crossover&body%5B%5D=estate&body%5B%5D=hatchback&body%5B%5D=multi-pupose-vehicle&body%5B%5D=saloon&body%5B%5D=small-van&body%5B%5D=sport-utility-vehicle&body%5B%5D=suv&body%5B%5D=upper-medium-estate&body%5B%5D=upper-medium-saloon&make%5B%5D=audi&make%5B%5D=hyundai&make%5B%5D=kia&make%5B%5D=mercedes-benze&make%5B%5D=nissan&make%5B%5D=toyota&make%5B%5D=volkswagen

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@izzythepush,

You are making the typical knee-jerk anti-US argument (just arguing to argue). The big advantage that Tesla has over its competitors is range (the number of miles that you can drive on a single charge).

Tesla's technology means you can drive much further on a single charge. This is important, most people drive more than 100 miles in a single day. In the past couple of years some competitors have been approaching the range of a Tesla. They are doing this by using Tesla's battery technology.

To say that Tesla hasn't revolutionized the Electric car industry by creating cars that can be driven for realistic distances is ignorance. If you stop to think about it, I am sure you can understand why a car that can drive 500 miles in a day is better than a car that can be driven 99 miles in a day.

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@maxdancona,

Seems pretty obvious. Also, if you can use solar to power up that battery, the cost of operating that car goes down dramatically.

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@maxdancona,

Quote:

most people drive more than 100 miles in a single day

For whatever it's worth, your statement is patently FALSE. If that figure were true, then those people that drive in excess of 100 miles per day, would be driving in excess of 36k miles per year.

In reality, the average North American driver probably drives approximately 13k-15k miles per year. That would make the average driving milage about
40 -50 miles per day or about half of your exaggerated milage.

The figures here are more exact:

Quote:

The average American driver puts more than 1,000 miles on their car every month. However, you'd be surprised to learn who drives the most. According to data from the U.S. Department of Transportation, the average American driver puts in 13,474 miles behind the wheel each year.

Furthermore, Tesla's battery technology while more advanced than other automotive companies, still comes a bit short on range. approximately 190-245 miles on a charge. Also, most importantly, the supply grid and power charging stations are also in short supply in some areas. Furthermore, being that charging stations are hard to find, it will leave the driver stranded or delayed by an extensive amount of time...let's say about 60-90 minutes to FULLY charge up again.

More data here:

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{Tesla Supercharging} stations charge with up to 145 kW of power distributed between two adjacent cars, with a maximum of 120 kW per car. That is up to 16 times as fast as public charging stations; they take about 20 minutes to charge to 50%, 40 minutes to charge to 80%, and 75 minutes to 100%.

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@Ragman,

You are being silly, Ragman. You are arguing just to argue; choosing sides based on personal connections rather than logic... and you are coming out swinging.

The phrase "most people drive more than 100 miles in a day" is different than "most people drive more than 100 miles every day". I think you already understand the difference and you are just picking a fight (but if not, you can read those two over again and see if you can spot the difference).

If your car could on drive 100 miles a day... and then it took you several hours to refill the tank... it would be a problem for you. It wouldn't be a problem every day, but it would make the car much less valuable. Range in an electric car is very important.

That is why Tesla has been (and still is at this point) the revolutionary undisputed leader in electric cars since they have been produced.

But you are picking sides based on the people involved. I don't think you are serious, so I won't argue too seriously.

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@maxdancona,

I’ve really got no idea what you’re talking about. I’m baffled as to what and why you think is my motivation . As I’m at a loss, I’ll pass on by here.

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Nikola sues Tesla and gets an 800-truck Anheuser-Busch order in the same week
By Bruce Brown — Posted on May 4, 2018 - 5:13AM
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/nikola-sues-tesla/

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@maxdancona,

What's the difference between "in a day" and "every day?"

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Tesla has made significant advances in battery technology, solar panels drive train, software... anyone who says there isn't impressive technological advancement from Tesla is full of crap. Before Tesla, electric cars were for hobbyists and warehouses. After Tesla they are being used by real people to go places.

100% without a doubt true.

Anyone that tries to dispute this I'll assume hasn't little knowledge about the technology.

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@cicerone imposter,

You are being silly. We were talking about the range of electric cars.

- People drive their car more than 100 miles in a day.
- People drive their car more than 100 miles every day.

One of these statements is true for most of us. The other is false for most people. If you were an ESL student, I would understand your confusion... I suspect you are just trolling me (not that I have a problem with that, this is clearly a troll thread).

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@maxdancona,

If you had to guess Max, what percentage of threads you find yourself on would you consider troll threads?

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That's some hilarious bullshit when one considers the source.

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@maporsche,

maporsche wrote:

If you had to guess Max, what percentage of threads you find yourself on would you consider troll threads?

Not a huge percentage... but not rare either. Look at the threads that are accusing people of being a "racial bigot", being a "fascist", or waging a "war on women" (and pretty much any thread started by Setanta). All these threads are people in an ideological bubble looking to attack people on the outside.

Are you really fooled? What do you think the purpose of this thread is?

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Are you really fooled? What do you think the purpose of this thread is?

Elon Musk says some stupid **** and it pisses some people off.

This thread is a place to voice that displeasure.

You think CI, the retired, octogenarian, world traveler is sitting in his home office trying to create a thread to troll anonymous Maxdancona on tiny little A2K?

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@maporsche,

When someone posts a thread entitled "[famous person] is a racial bigot", it is a Troll Thread. The very title of this thread is a rather nasty personal attack on a famous person, and it is followed by a litany of diverse slurs against a very public target.

Whether someone is a world-travelling octogenarian, or a Nobel laureate or a world reknowned chef... it doesn't change the fact that this thread is a troll thread.

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@cicerone imposter,

Cicerone, you may recall that Tesla's manufacturing is done in the Bay area in a long ago closed GM assembly plant which later became "New United Motors" or NUMI, as it was known, a Joint venture of GM and Toyota created partly to appease the labor unions that had effectively controlled the plant. Labor relations had been very sour at this plant for a long time, with a long history of grievances and productivity destroying union rules. That's why NUMI failed after a few years.

I'm no fan of Tesla. Its a company that survives on a $7K/vehicle Federal subsidy that will likely expire soon. Unlike hybrids, all electric vehicles don't reduce CO2 emissions at all, when one considers the fossil fuel required to generate the electrical energy to charge them.

However I believe it is likely inaccurate to call Musk a racist - an opprobrium that is cast about far too often in today's world, solely because of this. The complaints and grievance's that you describe have been going on at this facility for several decades. They didn't start with Tesla, and they likely have more to do with the character of the Union local and the work force than Tesla. Indeed I find it remarkable that the plant is doing even this well, given it's long history of low productivity and hostile labor relations.

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