Quote:I believe there is a south American country that serves as the model that the US uses for SSI privatization.
Why is it assumed that a South American country's GDP, politics, legislation, population, and the myriad other differing statistics, would be identical to the U.S. in gauging how SSI privatization would work this country?
Edit: I changed my mind about making this post.
Einherjar:
Don't even bother. Trust me.
Cycloptichorn
Einherjar wrote:I'll make this short
RexRed wrote:Increased ownership brings increased competition which leads to a higher standard of social security, greater prosperity, health and economic strength.
How so?
A disabled persons net worth increases 700% if they buy their own house and do not spend their monthly check on a rental apartment. This is just one example.
A disabled friend of mine just sold the house their disability check and tenant money bought them and made a profit of $100.000 dollars.
Oh, yeah, and THEY'RE the mirror spittin' image of the U.S....
Dookiestix wrote:
Oh, yeah, and THEY'RE the mirror spittin' image of the U.S....

So are you saying we cannot learn a thing from Argentina's own experience? And a mass of data from other countries who have attempted other measures. Why? Maybe because their SSI was going or had gone broke too.
RexRed wrote:Dookiestix wrote:
Oh, yeah, and THEY'RE the mirror spittin' image of the U.S....

So are you saying we cannot learn a thing from Argentina's own experience? And a mass of data from other countries who have attempted other measures. Why? Maybe because their SSI was going or had gone broke too.
http://www.cepr.net/argentina_and_ss_privatization.htm
I believe we can learn quite a bit from Argentina's experience, don't you?
There's no axe; you seem to think that you have me angered somehow.
I'm not mad at you at all. I just don't wish to discuss things with someone who doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. I'm sure you don't feel that you don't know what the hell you are talking about; but you sure haven't displayed that here in any way. Your empty generalities don't do anything than tell people what your opinion is, and frankly, we don't CARE what your opinion is.
Good day.
Cycloptichorn
It is just me or has this thread pretty much died out in a haze of blind neoconservative ideology?
Drones? You would know, Rex...
Cycloptichorn wrote:There's no axe; you seem to think that you have me angered somehow.
I'm not mad at you at all. I just don't wish to discuss things with someone who doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. I'm sure you don't feel that you don't know what the hell you are talking about; but you sure haven't displayed that here in any way. Your empty generalities don't do anything than tell people what your opinion is, and frankly, we don't CARE what your opinion is.
Good day.
Cycloptichorn
WE? Who are WE? The third riche?
The difference is, I care what your opinion is but I think it is "incorrect". I am the better for it. Much of what you post is tailored to fit your own ideologue. It is evident, the slander, to those who step back from your obsession and focus to reality for a moment.
Cycloptichorn wrote:There's no axe; you seem to think that you have me angered somehow.
I'm not mad at you at all. I just don't wish to discuss things with someone who doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. I'm sure you don't feel that you don't know what the hell you are talking about; but you sure haven't displayed that here in any way. Your empty generalities don't do anything than tell people what your opinion is, and frankly, we don't CARE what your opinion is.
Good day.
Cycloptichorn
I had no problem understanding what he was saying. I had no trouble following his logic, which was actually quite sound. Perhaps your hysterical blindness temporarily clouded your vision and you couldn't quite make out the words. Is that a possibility?
Anyways, you do not speak for anyone other than yourself, perhaps you should edit your post to say "
I don't CARE what your opinion is."...
RexRed wrote:Cycloptichorn wrote:There's no axe; you seem to think that you have me angered somehow.
I'm not mad at you at all. I just don't wish to discuss things with someone who doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. I'm sure you don't feel that you don't know what the hell you are talking about; but you sure haven't displayed that here in any way. Your empty generalities don't do anything than tell people what your opinion is, and frankly, we don't CARE what your opinion is.
Good day.
Cycloptichorn
WE? Who are WE? The third riche?
The difference is, I care what your opinion is but I think it is "incorrect". I am the better for it. Much of what you post is tailored to fit your own ideologue. It is evident, the slander, to those who step back from your obsession and focus to reality for a moment.
Clearly divorced from reality...
Good day.
CALLING THE KETTLE GAY
March 3, 2005
Ann Coulter
It's been a tough year for Democrats. They lost the presidential election, their favorite news outlets have been abjectly humiliated, they had to sit through a smashingly successful election in Iraq, and most painfully, they had to endure unwarranted attacks on a cartoon sponge. So I understand liberals are upset. Let go, let God ... Oops ?- I'm talking to liberals! Let go, let Spongebob ...
Democrats tried working out their frustrations on blacks for a while, but someone ?- I can't remember who, but it probably wasn't Sen. Robert Byrd ?- must have finally told them it really wasn't helping to keep disparaging every single black person in a position of authority in this Republican administration.
So now liberals are lashing out at the gays. Two weeks ago, The New York Times turned over half of its op-ed page to outing gays with some connection to Republicans. There is no principled or intellectual basis for these outings. Conservatives don't want gays to die; we just don't want to transform the Pentagon into the Office of Gay Studies.
By contrast, liberals say: "We love gay people! Gay people are awesome! Being gay is awesome! Gay marriage is awesome! Gay cartoon characters are awesome! And if you don't agree with us, we'll punish you by telling everyone that you're gay!"
In addition to an attack on a Web site reporter for supposedly operating a gay escort service and thereby cutting into the business of the Village Voice, another Times op-ed article the same day gratuitously outed the children of prominent conservatives.
These are not public figures. No one knows who they are apart from their famous parents. I didn't even know most of these conservatives had children until the Times outed them.
Liberals can't even cite their usual "hypocrisy" fig leaf to justify the public outings of conservatives' family members. No outsider can know what goes on inside a family, but according to the public version of one family matter being leered over by liberals, a prominent conservative threw his daughter out of the house when he found out she was gay.
Stipulating for purposes of argument that that's the whole story ?- which is absurd ?- isn't that the opposite of hypocrisy? Wouldn't that be an example of someone sacrificing other values on the mantle of consistency?
Outing relatives of conservatives is nothing but ruthless intimidation: Stop opposing our agenda ?- or your kids will get it. This is a behavioral trope of all totalitarians: Force children to testify against their parents to gain control by fear.
It's bad enough when liberals respond to a conservative argument by digging through the conservative's garbage cans; it's another thing entirely when they start digging through the garbage cans of the conservative's family members. (On behalf of conservatives everywhere, I say: Stay out of our gay relatives' cans.)
Liberals use these people and then discard them. Has John Kerry had lunch with his pal Mary Cheney lately? What ever happened to Newt Gingrich's gay half-sister? Did she have any further insights to impart other than that she was gay?
Already this year, the glorious story of one conservative's gay child has gotten 58 mentions on Lexis-Nexis, including seven shows on CNN (eight if you include "On the Record With Greta Van Susteren") ?- and none on Fox News (unless you include "On the Record With Greta Van Susteren").
The 2004 Gay Conservative Offspring story got 29 mentions on Lexis-Nexis, including in The New York Times, The Washington Post, The New York Daily News, The International Herald Tribune and five shows on CNN. (This story wasn't as much fun for liberals inasmuch as they were forced to mention that the conservative had adopted the troubled, mixed-race child at age 15, contradicting their earlier claims that the conservative was a racist.) There is not a single mention of this gay poster boy in the Lexis-Nexis archives since the last sadistic mention of him in an article from October 2004. Liberals ruin a family and then moveon.org.
Meanwhile, William J. Murray, the son of prominent atheist Madalyn Murray O'Hair -- and the named plaintiff in the Supreme Court case that banned school prayer -- came out as a Christian in 1980. There are only two mentions of it in the Lexis-Nexis archives: Facts on File and The Washington Post.
The Lexis-Nexis library for 1980 may be smaller than it is today, but it has articles from major newspapers, which the New York Times was still considered in 1980. (There are, for example, two Times stories mentioning the rumor that Ronald Reagan dyed his hair in the Lexis-Nexis archives for 1980.) No mention of the son of America's most notorious atheist becoming a Christian.
Two years later, Murray wrote a riveting book about his spiritual transformation from the sordid misery of atheism to Christianity, My Life Without God. There were only five articles mentioning the book on Lexis-Nexis: four wire services and one article in The Washington Post. None in the Times.
Unlike the gay children of conservatives, who are used as liberal props and then dropped, Murray has remained in the news for decades as a powerful Christian spokesman. Perhaps this is because a spiritual journey from atheism to Christianity is of more intellectual interest than an announcement of one's sexual preference. It's just not as likely to be gloated over in purportedly serious news outlets like CNN or The New York Times. Let go, let Spongebob ...
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