real life wrote:Setanta wrote:Pretty damned fast, i'd say. Given that there would have had to have been more than a million species of insect, and more than 50,000 of all other animals, there wouldn't have been much room for growth. Quite apart from the sheer magnitude of the task, you are stuck with every species currently know having been accomodated on your fanciful boat, because you're stipulating for a direct creation of all known forms of life--unless, of course, you're now willing to stipulate that some form of evolution has taken place since then.
By the way, Brontosaurus is no longer the accepted term, as it was found that the head originally attributed to the fossils found was not the right head. They are now called Apatosaurs. Full grown Apatosaurs weighed forty tons. Quite apart from the ludicrous image of Noah going into the nesting grounds of Apatasaurs to turn the juveniles over to establish the gender, one has to consider that to get from an egg (even if quite a large egg) to a forty ton, full-grown adult would have required a very rapid growth rate altogether.
I'm rather disappointed in you, though. The last time this came up, you used a different dodge, and claimed that your boy, god, put the critters into some sort of suspended animation, so that fodder would not have been needed. That sillines is irrelevant, though, as your boat with the given dimensions could not have held all the species, even if juveniles.
hi Setanta,
Instead of guessing 'pretty fast', maybe we could consider that unlike mammals which grow to full size in a specified period of time and then do not continue to increase in size, many other species continue to grow throughout their lifespan. So a rapid growth curve from 0 to 40 tons is not necessarily the case.
Maybe someone who has specialized knowledge of these big critters can enlighten us further.
Also, there was no need for Noah to search the nesting area of any animal, because the animals came to him.
I don't remember postulating any 'suspended animation', although I may have mentioned that some others have suggested ordinary hibernation (just as many animals do today) may have taken place during the time the animals were onboard. This would , of course, have eased the burden of feeding, cleaning , etc
As i've noted, i find it amazing hilarious that you continue to want to discuss this as though your thesis were plausible.
More than one million species of insect; more than 50,000 species of other animal life. As is always your tactic, you attempt to distract from the totality of the absurdity of your position. You are happy to mire the discussion in pointless little side discussion in which you attempt to establish the plausibility of this nonsense by convincing others to argue crap like picking out juveniles, or the assertion that the animals came to him. As TSA has pointed out, you've got to have seven pairs of the "clean" animals.
The jokers who wrote that crap probably thought they had described a pretty big boat--but it doesn't even come close to providing sufficient space, nevermind fodder and food Noah and Company. I've already shredded in detail the notion that such a vessel of such a size could have been built and survived a year at sea, when built by those clueless about naval architecture.
And you continue to attempt to show how it were possible to have gotten all the critters on board. Amazing . . . simply amazing obtuse absurdity . . .
