Evolution? How?

RexRed wrote:

I am not interpreting the Bible I am letting the Bible interpret itself.

Great stuff Rex.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Just for laughs, Rex...

...let's you and I do an "interpretation" of a particular biblical passage...and let the others decide which of us sounds more like a "misinterpreter."

Here's the passage:

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be
put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their
lives." Leviticus 20:13


Now I say that this passage tells us that the god of the Bible considers homosexual conduct to be such an abominable deed...that anyone who engages in it has voluntarily forfeited his life...and that "the faithful" should put him to death.


Now...you tell us how you interpret that passage.

I interpret that passage as addressed TO SPECIFICALLY a Hebrew tribe in the desert by a fallible prophet of God, Moses. (God knew Moses was fallible) I do not consider that passage ADDRESSED to me. Different parts of the Bible are addressed to different people. As for the meaning of it, considering that since adultery was judged by the same punishment of death it was less the homosexuality and more the dangers of extramarital sex in a small tribe that brought about that rule.

There is a simple reason... even TODAY, an entire countries tribal people of "Africa" are dying, from "extramarital sex".

God had foreknowledge and if extramarital sex had been able to run rampant then it may have interrupted the Christ seed? Jesus may never have been born. Only God knows NOT YOU Frank. Regardless this is not TO US and the Hebrew people took the burden willingly upon themselves.

I find it bizarre that so many Christians will go to so much extent to prove something which is quite obviously wrong, there is a God who ages the galaxy to make it look old,

RexRed wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

Just for laughs, Rex...

...let's you and I do an "interpretation" of a particular biblical passage...and let the others decide which of us sounds more like a "misinterpreter."

Here's the passage:

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be
put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their
lives." Leviticus 20:13


Now I say that this passage tells us that the god of the Bible considers homosexual conduct to be such an abominable deed...that anyone who engages in it has voluntarily forfeited his life...and that "the faithful" should put him to death.


Now...you tell us how you interpret that passage.

I interpret that passage as addressed TO SPECIFICALLY a Hebrew tribe in the desert by a fallible prophet of God, Moses. (God knew Moses was fallible) I do not consider that passage ADDRESSED to me. Different parts of the Bible are addressed to different people. As for the meaning of it, considering that since adultery was judged by the same punishment of death it was less the homosexuality and more the dangers of extramarital sex in a small tribe that brought about that rule.

There is a simple reason... even TODAY, an entire countries tribal people of "Africa" are dying, from "extramarital sex".

God had foreknowledge and if extramarital sex had been able to run rampant then it may have interrupted the Christ seed? Jesus may never have been born. Only God knows NOT YOU Frank. Regardless this is not TO US and the Hebrew people took the burden willingly upon themselves.

And you claim the problem is that those of us on this side of the argument are misinterpreting the Bible??????

You can pick out a specific passage and determine that your god "addressed" it to someone...some specific someone else, but not you??????

Rex...your thinking and distortion is so bizarre, contrived, tortured...that even you should be able to see through it.

Now all you have to do is to figure out why you would go to such lengths to rationalize such an obvious fairytale.

(Lemme give you some help with that: Go back and read the posts talking about how afraid and superstitious you poor folks are!)

Then you say t-rex's and other dinosaurs existed at the same time as the old testament, so where did noah put them in the arc ? and how did he feed them, surely these massive creatures would have been hard to keep up on just fish, or did Noah not bother to bring them?

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I find it bizarre that so many Christians will go to so much extent to prove something which is quite obviously wrong, there is a God who ages the galaxy to make it look old,

The question is why would God do this? Is he trying to fool us? Is he paranoid and wants to test our faith, to see if we believe in the proper way? Is this one of his methods to see who can be sent to the fires of hell and who will live in his city of gold, silver and pearls?

On one hand he is giving us a picture of a universe billions of years old. On the other he is saying it's not. Not only is he saying it's not but the whole story of creation is wrong. Are we to believe a phony story or what he shows us?

...If God created the world and Adam in a few days, and then plainly told Adam "I created this in six days" , how is that deceptive ? Unless he simply chose not to believe what God said, how could he be misled in any way?

If God created the world and Adam in a few days, and then plainly told Adam "I created this in six days" , how is that deceptive ?

1:11
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, [and] the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed [is] in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

1:12
And the earth brought forth grass, [and] herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed [was] in itself, after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.

1:13
And the evening and the morning were the third day.

1:14
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

1:15
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

1:16
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: [he made] the stars also.

1:17
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

1:18
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that [it was] good.

1:19
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Real wrote:

If God created the world and Adam in a few days, and then plainly told Adam "I created this in six days" , how is that deceptive ?

It's deceptive if all evidence points to a world that was not created in 6 days or in the order the Bible states.

Do you believe that plants were created and established on earth before the sun, moon and stars were created?

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1:11
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, [and] the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed [is] in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

1:12
And the earth brought forth grass, [and] herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed [was] in itself, after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.

1:13
And the evening and the morning were the third day.

1:14
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

1:15
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

1:16
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: [he made] the stars also.

1:17
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

1:18
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that [it was] good.

1:19
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Not only that there was there plant life but liquid water. Where did the heat come from? Why wasn't everything frozen? Maybe you believe we don't get our heat from the sun, could that be?

Where did the light come from if sun, moon and stars were absent?

IT'S A MIRACLE!!!!

Oh, fer chrissake - can the biblethumpers get any sillier? Rhetorical question, of course; of course they can - and will.

BDV wrote:

Then you say t-rex's and other dinosaurs existed at the same time as the old testament, so where did noah put them in the arc ? and how did he feed them, surely these massive creatures would have been hard to keep up on just fish, or did Noah not bother to bring them?

hi BDV,

This is an old and rather silly objection, don't you think so?

Have you ever considered (possibly not) that Noah did not have to bring full grown specimens, but could have (and probably would have preferred to) brought along young, small representatives of most of the species?

timberlandko wrote:

Oh, fer chrissake - can the biblethumpers get any sillier? Rhetorical question, of course; of course they can - and will.

I think, that was interesting. Espeially, I like the idea of "God the cloud pusher".

The sun, moon and stars are not in "perfect" relationship to the earth. Conditions on the earth are a result of the proximity of other celestial bodies. Were things radically different, you wouldn't be here to peddle your horsie poop. Serendipity only exists in the eye of the beholder.

Funny how god created those things in day one, two, and three without the sun. Without the sun, everyting on this planet woud have frozen.