RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 08:50 pm
Ray wrote:
lol I want a share of that.


Ac 26:18
To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 08:56 pm
Chumly wrote:
RexRed wrote:
For I have rejected the flesh for the spirit and the earthly for the heavenly...
So you'll be sending me a check for the balance of your rejected earthly net worth?


Are your sure my earthly net worth is worth more than your own spiritual net worth?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 09:39 pm
Spiritual net worth = zero.
Net assets = whatever it's worth which is decidedly worth much more than zero.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 09:48 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Spiritual net worth = zero.
Net assets = whatever it's worth which is decidedly worth much more than zero.


Spiritual assets endure for eternity.
Net assets endure till death.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 09:50 pm
Spirituality is lost in the quest for net assets...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 10:18 pm
Where are we, where are we going? Smile
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 10:29 pm
Rex wrote:
Spiritual assets endure for eternity.

Prove it?

I can guarantee you that whatever you have in material assets will last longer than what you believe to be "spiritual assets." Spritial asset is only in your brain that dies when you die. Nobody will know you even "had" it after you're gone. Your material possession will be thrown away, given to family or friends, or to charity. It'll last a few more years than your life - if they're still in useable condition.

More practical by any measure.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 10:57 pm
I like this new turn, (like?) as I don't think we have beat the materialism versus spiritualism horse to complete pulp as we have Creationism versus Evolution horse, especially considering that in effect evolution is a form of materialism.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 10:58 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Rex wrote:
Spiritual assets endure for eternity.

Prove it?

I can guarantee you that whatever you have in material assets will last longer than what you believe to be "spiritual assets." Spritial asset is only in your brain that dies when you die. Nobody will know you even "had" it after you're gone. Your material possession will be thrown away, given to family or friends, or to charity. It'll last a few more years than your life - if they're still in useable condition.

More practical by any measure.


My spiritual "asset" is God... How long do you speculate that will last?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 11:18 pm
Terra incognito...

Go east by going west...

http://www.newberry.org/k12maps/module_01/6-8.html
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real life
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 11:45 pm
rosborne979 wrote:


All that has to be done is to stop trying to view the Bible as literal physical reality.


Even people who generally don't 'believe the Bible' take some parts of it literally.

I can point out parts of the Bible that anyone would agree are meant to be taken literally.

And they would agree that some passages are literally true.

The number of passages might be a relatively small number, but they do take those literally.

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On the other hand, no one takes all[/u] of the Bible literally.

No matter how far down the line you go, you will find LOTS of passages that they do consider symbolic, allegorical, etc

The number of literal passages are higher for these people, but it is by no means 'all' of the Bible.

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So what we are discussing is not 'if' you should take the Bible literally, because EVERYBODY does, but which parts?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2006 02:02 am
http://rhetoric.byu.edu/Figures/Groupings/by%20Author/Bullinger.htm

I own a copy of this book. It is about three times bigger than an average Bible.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2006 06:44 am
real life wrote:
On the other hand, no one takes all[/u] of the Bible literally.


Actually, that's not true. I've met many people who take the whole thing literally.

real life wrote:
So what we are discussing is not 'if' you should take the Bible literally, because EVERYBODY does, but which parts?


Ok then, here are some parts which are obviously not to be taken literally: Adam and Eve, Noah's flood, Parting of the Red Sea, Resurrection of Jesus, all the parts which describe supernatural events. Do you agree?
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2006 07:02 am
rosborne979 wrote:
Ok then, here are some parts which are obviously not to be taken literally: Adam and Eve, Noah's flood, Parting of the Red Sea, Resurrection of Jesus, all the parts which describe supernatural events. Do you agree?


What a stupid question to ask. Of course, he doesn't agree. If he agreed, we wouldn't have this argument about Evolution in the first place.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2006 07:56 am
Wolf_ODonnell wrote:
What a stupid question to ask. Of course, he doesn't agree. If he agreed, we wouldn't have this argument about Evolution in the first place.


I know, I just get a kick out of hearing people say that stuff, and mean it.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2006 08:19 am
ros wrote-

Quote:
Actually, that's not true. I've met many people who take the whole thing literally.


Do you work in an institution?

Actually I do take parts of the Song of Solomon literally.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2006 09:15 am
spendius wrote:
ros wrote-

Quote:
Actually, that's not true. I've met many people who take the whole thing literally.


Do you work in an institution?


Yeh, I'm the guy who locks your door every night Wink

No institution necessary. All you need to do is visit the bible belt and talk to a few of the faithful. They aren't hard to find.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2006 09:53 am
Obviously they are not hard to find if you go looking in the bible belt (which is a sort of institution) for them.

We don't have a bible belt here and I never meet anyone ever who takes the whole of the bible literally or,truth to tell,anybody who mentions it.

There are more important subjects where I socialise like football and cricket and food and holidays and cars and babies and work and the price of beer.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2006 10:08 am
spendius wrote:
We don't have a bible belt here and I never meet anyone ever who takes the whole of the bible literally or,truth to tell,anybody who mentions it.


You only need to look at websites such as "Answers in Genesis".
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2006 10:45 am
spendius wrote:
Obviously they are not hard to find if you go looking in the bible belt (which is a sort of institution) for them.

We don't have a bible belt here and I never meet anyone ever who takes the whole of the bible literally or,truth to tell,anybody who mentions it.


Apparently, Christian Voice people do.

Quote:
There are more important subjects where I socialise like football and cricket and food and holidays and cars and babies and work and the price of beer....


...is too expensive.
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