RexRed wrote:reality can be warped....
1 Corinthians 13:12
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
I'll try again...since you seem to like quoting 1 Corinthians, how about this one?
I Corinthians 14: 34-35
"34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. "
mesquite wrote:I'll try again...since you seem to like quoting 1 Corinthians, how about this one?
I Corinthians 14: 34-35
"34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. "
Men are supposed to be silent in the church too... The verse you are referring to is talking about the wives of the prophets... They are not supposed to contradict their husbands in public but to discuss the matters in private first... This rule also goes for the husbands of the prophets...
It reminds me of Tammy Fae Baker...
"But honey... but honey" she interrupted her husband so much she made him look stupid... Had he been doing this to her it would have made her look stupid.
The Bible is concerned that people show a face of unity in public... This has nothing to do with limiting anyones rights... It has to do with basic etiquette..
34 - Women keep silence Why? It would cause confusion v33 or be contrary to the "law." What law? Perhaps as in v21, but the reference does not seem to apply. I suggest that it was a local rule or one made by the Jewish rabbis. Ignoring it may have caused misunderstanding. On the other hand this is not an issue in 1co1105 which leaves us with only the confusion problem, confirmed in v40.
35 - Learn ... ask their husbands at home This supports the confusion idea just mentioned. Paul's original readers understood the whole situation. We don't and need to avoid making rules based on incomplete information.
Brandon9000 wrote:RexRed wrote:I am not referring to anyone specifically... but some people have a limited number of receptors and so they have to stimulate themselves artificially to achieve the same effect. Some can obtain nirvana from a flower petal or a simple sound (savant). Some need to jump from a plane to stimulate the risk receptors...
I hate to interrupt the little high on life thing you've got going on, but in fact, science has made easily visible progress since Newton, if not before. Let's see you make a car work with faith instead of an engine and fuel system. Crime scene units don't bring in priests to solve a crime, they bring in people trained in science. History is one long verification that science works verifiably. Religion, on the other hand, has produced no such verification. Religious officials were responsible for persecuting Galileo for saying that the Earth orbited the sun. You are writing your "disproof" of the scientific method on a PC over the Internet, probably under an electric light, all things that started in a lab, or on a paper analysis of the scientific cause and effect, or with experiments. You can put up a smokescreen of "poetic" phrases all day, but it doesn't change one iota the fact that logic and experiment are the only reliable way of determining what is true and what is false in matters of fact. Just out of curiosity, do you go to a faith healer when you're sick or a doctor?
God is first aid...
But ignorance persecuted Galileo not God...
Poetic phrases and "spirit" when your doctor fails you...
experiments and curiosity...
RexRed wrote:mesquite wrote:I'll try again...since you seem to like quoting 1 Corinthians, how about this one?
I Corinthians 14: 34-35
"34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. "
Men are supposed to be silent in the church too... The verse you are referring to is talking about the wives of the prophets... They are not supposed to contradict their husbands in public but to discuss the matters in private first... This rule also goes for the husbands of the prophets...
It reminds me of Tammy Fae Baker...
"But honey... but honey" she interrupted her husband so much she made him look stupid... Had he been doing this to her it would have made her look stupid.
The Bible is concerned that people show a face of unity in public... This has nothing to do with limiting anyones rights... It has to do with basic etiquette..
You are doing a rather fancy hoop dance again with that explanation. The verses are quite specific.
The Bible Explained offers this explanation.
Quote:34 - Women keep silence Why? It would cause confusion v33 or be contrary to the "law." What law? Perhaps as in v21, but the reference does not seem to apply. I suggest that it was a local rule or one made by the Jewish rabbis. Ignoring it may have caused misunderstanding. On the other hand this is not an issue in 1co1105 which leaves us with only the confusion problem, confirmed in v40.
35 - Learn ... ask their husbands at home This supports the confusion idea just mentioned. Paul's original readers understood the whole situation. We don't and need to avoid making rules based on incomplete information.
Now back to evolution.
