Brandon9000 wrote:RexRed wrote:Brandon9000 wrote:RexRed wrote:Brandon9000 wrote:Jackofalltrades wrote:Obviously some of the people on this board got their degrees somewhere. Does Farmerman, Cicerone Imposter and others have degrees? Where did you get them?
Now here's the list again of creation scientisis in case you missed it earlier:
Note: Individuals on this list must possess a doctorate in a science-related field.
Dr Paul Ackerman, Psychologist
Dr James Allan, Geneticist
Dr Steve Austin, Geologist
Dr S.E. Aw, Biochemist
Dr Thomas Barnes, Physicist...
Insult is the lowest form of debate, but testimonial is the second lowest, and, logically, is of no significance. Every argument must be judged on its merits alone, and the qualifications of the person who advanced it are irrelevant.
I disagree... I can read you "testimonial" that would bring your to your knees and make you cry like a baby... I heard it once said... "Words are the most powerful way to impact the human mind..." Wisdom is knowledge applied... testimonials speak of this wisdom of the ages... Testimonials can be pure heart, I eat them up like candy...
It is not a valid argument logically to say, "Proposition X is true because person Y said so and he is very smart. It is logically irrelevant. The only valid way to demonstrate the truth of proposition X is to present evidence in support of it. Your colorful phraseology is irrelevant.
Testimonies are where your heart answers and not your mind...
You can come up with clever phraseology all day, and it has no bearing on any of the assertions made here. One does not decide the truth or falsehood of scientific assertions by taking a poll. One does so by logical deduction if one wants to get the right answer. The fact that you think testimonial ("They think so, and they're smart.") is a valid technique for scientific inquiry only reinforces the already obvious fact that your methods of deduction are faulty.
Are you talking about statistics and facts? Facts change... statistics change... but testimonies can speak of truth and truth never changes...
I am not referring to anyone specifically... but some people have a limited number of receptors and so they have to stimulate themselves artificially to achieve the same effect. Some can obtain nirvana from a flower petal or a simple sound (savant). Some need to jump from a plane to stimulate the risk receptors...
RexRed wrote:I am not referring to anyone specifically... but some people have a limited number of receptors and so they have to stimulate themselves artificially to achieve the same effect. Some can obtain nirvana from a flower petal or a simple sound (savant). Some need to jump from a plane to stimulate the risk receptors...
I hate to interrupt the little high on life thing you've got going on, but in fact, science has made easily visible progress since Newton, if not before. Let's see you make a car work with faith instead of an engine and fuel system. Crime scene units don't bring in priests to solve a crime, they bring in people trained in science. History is one long verification that science works verifiably. Religion, on the other hand, has produced no such verification. Religious officials were responsible for persecuting Galileo for saying that the Earth orbited the sun. You are writing your "disproof" of the scientific method on a PC over the Internet, probably under an electric light, all things that started in a lab, or on a paper analysis of the scientific cause and effect, or with experiments. You can put up a smokescreen of "poetic" phrases all day, but it doesn't change one iota the fact that logic and experiment are the only reliable way of determining what is true and what is false in matters of fact. Just out of curiosity, do you go to a faith healer when you're sick or a doctor?
I think that stating anything as fact without logical proof or material eveidance is a risk. It is hard to have a balanced debate on creationism/verses more fundemental theories with believers, because there is an immediate conflict of interest. One can not be a devout believer to creationism/ christianity or many other religions for that matter and maintain an open mind to the scientists.
