Evolution? How?

Not clever -- you're still stuck in Sunday School/High School. What university did you attent if you have "gone beyond." Or does this really mean you have literally gone beyond and are addressing us from The Twilight Zone?

You're preaching again on a thread about Evolution. Are you also a cleric?

Science doesn't "guess" and then cover their tracks. If that is the "scientists" you are reading, you need to verify their credentials. Scientists are skeptics by nature what might be characterized as "guesses" to you are hypothesis and are labeled so on their publication. If you are criticizing your high school science teacher and the text, go for it. Back when you went to school, it was likely even more simplified for the average student. I'm not sure in the US that this has changed all that much -- I run into high school students all the time in the art gallery that are interested in art but know nothing about it because art courses have been slashed in high schools.

No, your "hypothesis" is laughable and I no longer have time for it. You've fallen prey to the "1984" premise that 2 plus 2 equals 5. I don't think you even know how to calculate a tip at a restaurant, quite frankly.

Who is "someone." You need to get therepy.

I am waiting for an intelligent discourse between the precepts of evidence and belief.
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It's just the normal noises in here.

We can observe a seed grow into a tree.

And when it does, it has not changed from one type of organism to another. It's just a young stage of development compared to a more advanced stage of development of the SAME kind of organism. (Like comparing infant with adult. Do we say that the infant 'evolves' and becomes an adult?)

No wonder you believe in evolution if you think it's analogous to a seed becoming a tree. I can't believe you would put this analogy forward. I don't think you really believe this, do you?

Has anyone ever seen a virus mutate into anything other than a virus?

The last two pages are a disgrace to the American educational system.

Are there a lot of women teachers?

You don't need a university degree to find holes in this stuff. Sad...

RexRed wrote:

You don't need a university degree to find holes in this stuff. Sad...

And you obviously don't need a university degree to *imagine* holes in this stuff. Pitiful...

real life wrote:

We can observe a seed grow into a tree.

And when it does, it has not changed from one type of organism to another. It's just a young stage of development compared to a more advanced stage of development of the SAME kind of organism. (Like comparing infant with adult. Do we say that the infant 'evolves' and becomes an adult?)

No wonder you believe in evolution if you think it's analogous to a seed becoming a tree. I can't believe you would put this analogy forward. I don't think you really believe this, do you?

RL,

I'm going to assume for the moment that you not being intentionally dense, and that you really don't understand the point I was making.

Obviously the growth of an organism from one life stage to another is only loosely analogous to evolution. My point was the seeds don't change into trees over night, and neither do viruses evolve into non-viruses over night (or in one step).

More importantly, nowhere in evolutionary theory does it say that any organism will give birth to an organism of a different species.

So when you say things like this:

real life wrote:

Has anyone ever seen a virus mutate into anything other than a virus?

You are just flat out demonstrating total and complete ignorance of evolutionary theory.

The evolution of an organism into another organism takes many many small steps, not just one big step. And don't go talking about evidence for rapid evolution because no matter how rapid it gets, it's not anywhere close to "one generation".

More importantly, nowhere in evolutionary theory does it say that any organism will give birth to an organism of a different species.

Hi Ros,

Yes, I'm well aware that evolution as postulated 'takes lots of time'. You'll note I didn't imply or state that it happens in 'one generation' or 'overnight' or 'in one step'. Not sure why you would say this.

Has anyone ever seen a virus mutate into anything other than a virus?

But it is clear that if one critter evolves into another type of critter that at some point in time a line is crossed where papa is A and junior is B. Correct?

Since a commonly repeated claim of evolutionists is that evolution IS observable in the mutating virus, the question is a valid one and deserves a straight answer, instead of the misrepresentation with which you try to tag my post.

You scold me that 'It doesn't happen in one generation' and your earlier post 'You get an F in your understanding of evolution' when it is you who have begun to consistently misrepresent my position.

On the other hand, your example of the seed growing into a tree is not even loosely analogous to evolution. It neither represents one organism changing to another, nor even approximates the time frame that evolution is supposed to take.

Rex, apparently your grasp of physics does not encompass Heisenberg, Planck, and Dirac.