Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 06:29 pm
Nice!
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 06:45 pm
Motorcyclists shouldn't be without a helmet, in this case if RR is one, it's got to be a tin-foil helmet.
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xingu
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 07:05 pm
You guys ever hear of the candiru fish. It lives in South America and is feared more than the piranha.

This tiny fish is attracted to blood and urine, among other things. If you go skinny dipping in the Amazon and take a pee you may be in deep doo doo. If a candiru is in the neighborhood and get a whiff of your pee it will make a bee line for you and go up your rectum. In one case it went up a mans penis.
So this got me thinking about these crazy creationist and their weird God. If their God created all the animals in the world at the same time why would he create a fish such as this? Does he have a warped sense of humor? Is he cruel? Does he enjoy pain and suffering? Perhaps he thinks we so disgusting that we deserve things like the candiru fish.

But if the candiru fish was created through evolution, natural selection, and not by Devine intervention, then I think, maybe, just maybe, God's reputation as a God of love would be more believable.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 07:10 pm
A thought on the sense of humor of the purported Abrahamic God: In that the Jews are held to have been his "chosen people"; for millenia, he's played with them as might a cat with a mouse, and no doubt got a huge chuckle out of sticking them in the only spot of sand in the Middle East witout oil under it.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 07:14 pm
Perhaps RR uses a pith helmet which ties in nicely with those cute little fishes. It also could be when talking about RR's pee brain, you should best address him by saying "urine luck"!
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xingu
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 07:21 pm
Well maybe he was still PO'd at them. He has demonstrated in the Bible that he enjoys massacres, pain and suffering. Giving pagans all the wealth was perhaps his way of laughing at them.

But one could look at it from the Christian point of view. He knew the Jews were going to kill his "Son" in the future so, screw em, let them eat dirt.

Maybe even God doesn't like the Jews.

Could that be it?

So many questions.
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xingu
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 07:23 pm
Quote:
"urine luck"!
Laughing
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Pauligirl
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 08:38 pm
http://www.livescience.com/animalworld/060412_catfish_hunter.html
Catfish Hunt on LandBy Bjorn Carey
LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 12 April 2006
01:01 pm ET

You might think a catfish on land would fare as well as an elephant on roller-skates, but a new study reveals they slither around and adeptly catch insect meals [Video].
The finding helps scientists imagine how ancient fish made their first hunting trips ashore prior to evolving into land creatures.
This study is detailed in the April 13 issue of the journal Nature.
Puddle-jumping hunter
These particular eel catfish, Channallabes apus, live in tropical swamps in Africa, where most of the water is confined to small, acidic pools.
"There's probably more food traveling on land than in these small puddles of mud," said Sam Van Wassenbergh of the University of Antwerp in Belgium. "That's probably why this fish has specialized to go out of water to search for food."
The catfish pick up speed in water and flop onto land, where their flexible vertebral column lets them move around like a snake. They also have a special organ for breathing air without using their gills, although scientists don't quite know how this works.
In water, eel catfish suck in water to capture their prey. But because air is less dense than water, this trick is less effective when hunting on land, and these fish have developed a different approach.
Once they find their terrestrial prey, usually a small beetle or insect, they lift their head and mash at the creepy-crawly with their mouth. The fish nibble at their meal until it's pinned against the ground and they can get a good grip on it.
"They hold their prey firmly in their jaws and go back into the water where they can further digest it," Van Wassenbergh told LiveScience.
Once in the water, the fish can do the normal sucking action to draw a meal deeper into its mouth.
Ancient mobility
Having a mobile neck is key for hunting on land?-it allows the catfish to move its head up and down to stab at prey. Mobile necks are a feature usually reserved for land animals called tetrapods.
Recent discoveries of early tetrapods, such as Ichthyostega and Tiktaalik, have revealed that these beasts had mobile necks, and Van Wassenbergh said his catfish study might provide insight to how these early land animals went after food.
"It's hard to speculate about the behavior of fossils, but these animals had strong fins and a mobile neck, and I think there's a very good chance that these were also good terrestrial feeders," Van Wassenbergh said.

VIDEO: See the Catfish Hunt on Land
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RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 09:53 pm
timberlandko wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Could you please interpret this into English I would think you were typing in tongues... Smile

I must infer your reading comprehension is on a par with your grasp of semantics, logic, science, philosophy, and theology.

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Therefore no argument for God?

Precisely. No objective, forensically sound, academically valid argument may be made for the proposition.

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"What if" God exists?

"What if" is conjecture not argument. "What if" certainly may be a starting point ... obviously it is and always has been, "What if the earth isn't the center of the universe" being a splendid example. No "What if" ever has developed any evidence for any god, let alone the capricious, moody, mysogynistic curmudgeon postulated through the Abrahamic Mythopaeia; precisely no empirical evidence exists for any such entity, condition, or state of being, a situation which has been in existence from the formation of the concept of deity.


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Should that not factor into the matrix?

In that there is no no means by which to derive any such factor, the question of "Should" is an absurdity; that which cannot be factored cannot factor.
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Then all the arguments against are rather futile...

Half right - all arguments for and against are futile, as no objective, forensically sound, academically valid argument may be made against the proposition, just as no objective, forensically sound, academically valid argument may be made for the proposition. The proposition is not, cannot be, a factor either way.

I did like your "rock on a beach watching the sun rise and set for millions of years" allusion, though - sorta gave me a mini flashback to the '60s. Been there, done that, a lot, and still have a few tie-died T-shirts. A word of advice - if ever you're walking along the beach and encounter an enormous silver-scaled, fire-breathing, lamp-eyed, winged serpent, don't offer to share your stash with him; you'll never see it or him again. Trust me on that.


Thanks for your reply timber,

So are you saying because science cannot currently measure God that I should wait until they can before I believe?

You are measuring God with a yard stick when the apparatus for measuring God is within the human psyche...
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 09:55 pm
And in an ironic twist of fate here is a video of a marine mammal (the Killer Whale) doing much the same but on a grander scale - some day to return to the land?

Killer Whale Attacks Seal
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RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 09:58 pm
Chumly wrote:
And in an ironic twist of fate here is a video of a marine mammal (the Killer Whale) doing much the same but on a grander scale - some day to return to the land?

Killer Whale Attacks Seal


Maybe someday the land will return to the whale... Smile
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 10:11 pm
Well, they would make a whale of a dominant species.
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Doktor S
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 10:13 pm
RexRed wrote:
Wouldn't quantum physics itself be a "supernatural" realm? See, you are not thinking this stuff out...

I am beginning to suspect (ok I'm lying I suspected all along) that you haven't the foggiest what quantum physics is.
By the way, an acusation of not 'thinking stuff out' from one incapable of quantifying a position who does nothing but spew esoteric absurdities is comedy of the highest calibre Smile
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real life
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 10:23 pm
Lightwizard wrote:
We observe the light spectrum outside our natural vision using scientific instruments. Make sure you later on lots of sun screen or you'll get burnt. Perhaps after your read about Kelvin measurements.


The entire spectrum has existed for the entire history of the Earth. But it has only been fairly recently that humans have been AWARE of anything much more than visible light and audible sound.

Does that mean x-rays, radio and TV waves, gamma rays, etc all recently came into existence? No. We learned where to look for it.

If you doubt the possibility of existence of anything we presently can't measure, then it's a good thing we're not relying on you for any type of progress, you'd have us all sitting still.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 10:30 pm
Hi real life,

That in way means the implausible become plausible simply because you claim everything is not known. Prove to me there are no jelly donuts on Mars.

Why don't you try something new and exciting, instead of the same old shop worn clichés? BORING!

At least RexRed likes to play with rocks!
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real life
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 10:51 pm
Lots of things that were at one time 'implausible' are now facts of everyday life, Chumly.

You might want to get out more.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 11:02 pm
Your smugness is only excelled by your psychosis. Seek therepy -- you are not who you believe you are and certainly who we know you are.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 11:13 pm
real life wrote:
Lots of things that were at one time 'implausible' are now facts of everyday life, Chumly.

You might want to get out more.
Hi real life,

That in no way..........

I missed the no, well what do you know! Hey, did you find your jelly donuts yet, or are you trying to talk to rocks like RR, or are you praying for jelly donuts?

When god sends you the donuts get him to throw in a couple of Danishes for LW and me, and some rocks for RR, kay?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 11:25 pm
Yes, it's time for RL to cast aside his ego and turn the other cheek, like the Bible says. His humbleness might make us become empathetic towards his passion.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 12 Apr, 2006 11:45 pm
Yup, there are two things that work very well with people like RL:

The first is to give them humor
The second is to remind them of the better moralities of Jesus
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