RexRed wrote: Could you please interpret this into English I would think you were typing in tongues...
I must infer your reading comprehension is on a par with your grasp of semantics, logic, science, philosophy, and theology.
Quote:Therefore no argument for God?
Precisely. No objective, forensically sound, academically valid argument may be made for the proposition.
Quote:"What if" God exists?
"What if" is conjecture not argument. "What if" certainly may be a starting point ... obviously it is and always has been, "What if the earth isn't the center of the universe" being a splendid example. No "What if" ever has developed any evidence for any god, let alone the capricious, moody, mysogynistic curmudgeon postulated through the Abrahamic Mythopaeia; precisely no empirical evidence exists for any such entity, condition, or state of being, a situation which has been in existence from the formation of the concept of deity.
Quote:Should that not factor into the matrix?
In that there is no no means by which to derive any such factor, the question of "Should" is an absurdity; that which cannot be factored cannot factor.
Quote: Then all the arguments against are rather futile...
Half right - all arguments for and against are futile, as no objective, forensically sound, academically valid argument may be made against the proposition, just as no objective, forensically sound, academically valid argument may be made for the proposition. The proposition is not, cannot be, a factor either way.
I did like your "rock on a beach watching the sun rise and set for millions of years" allusion, though - sorta gave me a mini flashback to the '60s. Been there, done that, a lot, and still have a few tie-died T-shirts. A word of advice - if ever you're walking along the beach and encounter an enormous silver-scaled, fire-breathing, lamp-eyed, winged serpent, don't offer to share your stash with him; you'll never see it or him again. Trust me on that.